New Turnberry Improvement Plans

[bobmac]

Oh yeah he’s going to make the open all about himself. Absolute nonsense, he probably would hardly be seen at the venue. He absolutely loves golf and I’m pretty sure he would enjoy the golf for what it is

So you think he would keep a low profile?
Not a chance.
It's irrelevant anyway....

In January 2021, R&A Chief Executive Martin Slumbers released the following statement:
“We have no plans to stage any of our championships at Turnberry and will not do so in the foreseeable future. We will not return until we are convinced that the focus will be on the championship, the players and the course itself and we do not believe that is achievable in the current circumstances.”

I have no problem not being accepted into being a member of a Ladies club, a flat earth club, I hate Trump club etc, let everyone choose who can be a member of there club or not....what is the big deal.

You don't see a problem with a club who won't let someone join because of their skin colour?

 

[AussieKB]

So you think he would keep a low profile?
Not a chance.
It's irrelevant anyway....

In January 2021, R&A Chief Executive Martin Slumbers released the following statement:
“We have no plans to stage any of our championships at Turnberry and will not do so in the foreseeable future. We will not return until we are convinced that the focus will be on the championship, the players and the course itself and we do not believe that is achievable in the current circumstances.”


You don't see a problem with a club who don't let someone join because of their skin colour?

Why is always about race.....

A club in Victoria raised an uproar and kept the ex Premier of the State out because of his Covid policies, no outcry from the Woke.

No outcry about Sunningdale keeping Kevin Pietersen out, the Members should have the power to choose who they admit, as long as it does not break the law.

 

[Parsaregood]

So you think he would keep a low profile?
Not a chance.
It's irrelevant anyway....

In January 2021, R&A Chief Executive Martin Slumbers released the following statement:
“We have no plans to stage any of our championships at Turnberry and will not do so in the foreseeable future. We will not return until we are convinced that the focus will be on the championship, the players and the course itself and we do not believe that is achievable in the current circumstances.”


You don't see a problem with a club who won't let someone join because of their skin colour?

Yes I actually do, he is already one of the most famous guys in the world he doesn’t need the attention. R&A shouldn’t get involved in politics, at the end of the day there are a million different opinions on how things should be run. Like much of Britain there seems to be a clamber to jump on the left wing PC socialist bandwagon even from members of traditionally ‘centre right’ parties who think that cancel culture is good. Well it’s not, it’s a really bad road to travel.

Forever people will speak about Turnberry and remember the great opens played there and the fantastic course it is, the lighthouse, the hotel, ailsa craig. It doesn’t matter the open isn’t being played there it’s still spoken about as much if not more than other venues still on the rota.

One thing is for certain, Trump knows how to invest in, improve and market a golf course/venue. All of his golf facilities are top drawer. Turnberry and Trump Aberdeen are truly above most things seen in Britain from a golf standpoint.

 

[bobmac]

Why is always about race.....

A club in Victoria raised an uproar and kept the ex Premier of the State out because of his Covid policies, no outcry from the Woke.

No outcry about Sunningdale keeping Kevin Pietersen out, the Members should have the power to choose who they admit, as long as it does not break the law.

Who are the 'Woke' please?

 

[bobmac]

Yes I actually do, he is already one of the most famous guys in the world he doesn’t need the attention.

Don't agree

One thing is for certain, Trump knows how to invest in, improve and market a golf course/venue. All of his golf facilities are top drawer. Turnberry and Trump Aberdeen are truly above most things seen in Britain from a golf standpoint.

Again, disagree.

 

[AussieKB]

Who are the 'Woke' please?

You should know as it is talked about all the time.

The tail wagging the dog, the minority.

From Webster....
Woke is a slang term that means being aware of and attentive to social and racial justice issues. It originated in African American English and became popular with the Black Lives Matter movement.

 

[bobmac]

You should know as it is talked about all the time.

The tail wagging the dog, the minority.

From Webster....
Woke is a slang term that means being aware of and attentive to social and racial justice issues. It originated in African American English and became popular with the Black Lives Matter movement.

I do know what it means, I just wasn't sure if you did.
Anyway, this is heading perilously close to the forbidden land of politics so I will say no more.

 

[Parsaregood]

Don't agree

Again, disagree.

Ok so you think he doesn’t do a great job on his golf courses ? What other links facilities in the uk are even close ? I’ve played most of them. The ones on the west coast of Scotland (which I know best) Royal Troon, western Gailes, Glasgow gailes, Dundonald aren’t in the same postcode facility wise. I can go east coast as well they really are not close to being the calibre of facility.

 

[bobmac]

Ok so you think he doesn’t do a great job on his golf courses ? What other links facilities in the uk are even close ? I’ve played most of them. The ones on the west coast of Scotland (which I know best) Royal Troon, western Gailes, Glasgow gailes, Dundonald aren’t in the same postcode facility wise. I can go east coast as well they really are not close to being the calibre of facility.

I'm not questioning the courses, they are indeed good courses but as a business, are they making money yet?
And as for Aberdeen, that was a shambles of lies and broken promises from the start.

I notice you didn't comment on his narcissism?

 

[KenL]

Sorry but Dornoch isn’t close to Turnberry ailsa course, I have a friend who is a member there and it’s not that special. I believe Turnberry to be the best open destination because of the course, scenery and hotel/facilities. My favourite course is actually Carnoustie but I can appreciate why Turnberry is more attractive

We’re all different, haven’t played Trump Turnberry but I’m not a fan of Carnoustie.

 

[AussieKB]

What do think will happen if PIF buy Wentworth ?

Maybe no more Pro tournaments like Turnberry.

 

[Parsaregood]

I'm not questioning the courses, they are indeed good courses but as a business, are they making money yet?
And as for Aberdeen, that was a shambles of lies and broken promises from the start.

I notice you didn't comment on his narcissism?

Obviously hard to comment on whether they make ‘money’ maybe he is happy to break even and provide amazing golf facilities? I do know Dundonald which is not part of his portfolio loses vast amounts each month and very hard to see how that is sustainable, it’s not which is why there is chatter of major changes in direction. I haven’t heard anything like this about Turnberry or trump aberdeen, I don’t think they face the same issues.

I don’t know him personally, I find his personality entertaining if I’m honest. I enjoy the things he does, do I believe everything he says ? No but I think he is more upfront and honest than most in politics and he genuinely cares about his country. I wouldn’t trust the current Uk government with very much that is for sure and their personalities are very dull.

 

[bobmac]

Wow, we really don't agree, but again, straying towards politics

 

[HPIMG]

I'm not questioning the courses, they are indeed good courses but as a business, are they making money yet?
And as for Aberdeen, that was a shambles of lies and broken promises from the start.

I notice you didn't comment on his narcissism?

Do you seriously think there has ever been a world leader in any country that’s not been a narcissist lol it’s not a normal job for normal people, there all power hungry narcissists.
As for trump he does love his country and want the best for its people. Similar to putin I watched the Oliver Stone documentary with putin a while ago because I was kind of curious to see if he was anything like the media say. Like Stone I came away with a very different view of putin.
Problem is the older generation only get there information from the tv and if that’s the cases your very misinformed on everything.

 

[KenL]

Wow, we really don't agree, but again, straying towards politics

Straying towards politics…

 

[KenL]

Do you seriously think there has ever been a world leader in any country that’s not been a narcissist lol it’s not a normal job for normal people, there all power hungry narcissists.
As for trump he does love his country and want the best for its people. Similar to putin I watched the Oliver Stone documentary with putin a while ago because I was kind of curious to see if he was anything link the media say. Like Stone I came away with a very different view of putin.
Problem is the older generation now only get there information from the tv and if that’s the cases your very misinformed on everything.

So, the news is less believable than an Oliver Stone documentary?

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Just dipped into this thread. Are we back in the 70's . Wow isn't enough.

As for Turnberry, fabulous course, a great shame it is currently on the naughty step and won't be off it for the forseeable future.

 

[bobmac]

Do you seriously think there has ever been a world leader in any country that’s not been a narcissist lol it’s not a normal job for normal people, there all power hungry narcissists.
As for trump he does love his country and want the best for its people. Similar to putin I watched the Oliver Stone documentary with putin a while ago because I was kind of curious to see if he was anything like the media say. Like Stone I came away with a very different view of putin.
Problem is the older generation only get there information from the tv and if that’s the cases your very misinformed on everything.

Again, don't agree he loves his country.
He never misses a chance to denigrate it, especially Detroit.
He's spent his whole life grifting off the people as his daddies money ran out.
He's left workers, companies and states go unpaid.
The only reason he is running is to stay out of jail.
And just for the record, while I do get most of my news from the BBC, CNN and Youtube, I also watch a bit of Fox news until the lies start to hurt.
Except Jessica Tarlov

 

[sunshine]

Yes I actually do, he is already one of the most famous guys in the world he doesn’t need the attention.

I notice you didn’t answer my question in post 18, so I’ll spell it out for you: he changed the name of the course to TRUMP. He wants all the attention.

I can’t work out if you’re just a bit naive, or maybe you are solely focused on the outstanding 18 holes (which are undeniably amazing) which results in a blinkered view. This isn’t about politics but the ability to critically evaluate facts and draw logical conclusions.

 

[sunshine]

We look at it differently then.....I cannot see a problem but I know a lot of people these days are always looking for a problem whether there is one or not, and I am not saying you are.

If my club was being told who has to be let in for whatever reason I would hope that the members would stand up and say NO, we the members decide.

So you are happy to allow racist, sexist or other discriminatory practices to continue in order to preserve the rights of bigots to discriminate. If you cannot see a problem then unfortunately you are part of the problem.