Turnberry

[spongebob59]

I'll tread carefully with this.
Please shut down if not appropriate.

Times are reporting the PM is trying to negotiate a return to the open rota for Turnberry.
Assume this is to try and sweeten a trade deal.

Can't see this happening myself.

 

[SteveW86]

I'll tread carefully with this.
Please shut down if not appropriate.

Times are reporting the PM is trying to negotiate a return to the open rota for Turnberry.
Assume this is to try and sweeten a trade deal.

Can't see this happening myself.

I think Turnberry is being discussed already on the forum regards the Open rota, but I’d like to think that Starmer would have less than zero influence on this.

Can’t see it happening

 

[kp17]

Treading carefully here too but it really is nuts to think prime ministers etc getting involved to get his course back on a golf tournaments rota.
You’d think they’d all have enough to be kept busy with

 

[Arthur Wedge]

The PM will have zero say and would hope he would have more important to sort out than a golf course on the Open rota

They will discuss Turnberrys return to satisfy some but imo it won’t go back there until someone no longer owns it

Decision on Donald Trump's Turnberry hosting 2028 Open will be 'left to organisers'

The venue for the 2028 Open championship is up to the organisers, Downing Street has said amid reports Donald Trump has pressed for it to be hosted…

www.heraldscotland.com

The orange man is desperate for The Open

 

[IanM]

I think plenty of course owners would want the Open!

Our PM has zero influence in this matter regardless.

 

[Depreston]

Of course the PM has influence Boris sent his crony in and basically told the premier league to let PIF through to buy Newcastle

If it’s in the UKs economic interest they’ll try and push it through which this clearly is thanks to Trump

 

[PJ87]

The pm may have little influence but I suspect the royals could.. who the pm works with. I mean he owns the land

 

[Springveldt]

Treading carefully here too but it really is nuts to think prime ministers etc getting involved to get his course back on a golf tournaments rota.
You’d think they’d all have enough to be kept busy with

Got to look at who he is negotiating with though. This kind of thing would definitely sweeten the deal as his ego would get a boost from it.

 

[cliveb]

Refusing to let Turnberry host the open for political reasons is way down the importance scale than assisting the country's economy.
A sensible political leader wouldn't let something like this affect his reasoning, but Trump is basically a child and he could well be swayed by such a trivial issue.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

No, No, No - at least for as long as current family owns it. It's pathetic and verging on blackmail - and we shouldn't entertain the suggestion.

 

[Jigger]

Treading carefully here too but it really is nuts to think prime ministers etc getting involved to get his course back on a golf tournaments rota.
You’d think they’d all have enough to be kept busy with

For me, the R&A dragged it into a political minefield when Trump was first elected so I’m not surprised the PM has to get involved. It is often rated one of the best courses in the Uk so I’m amazed it’s not on the rota.

 

[3 jabber]

The official reason it's not on the rota is poor infrastructure not who owns it.
If Trump was to sell it I bet that same infrastructure would no longer be a problem.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I think it is one of the best Open venues so from that perspective alone I'd love to see it back and hosting. Whether that happens with the current owner remains to be seen

 

[evemccc]

I think the new R&A CE has commissioned a traffic flow feasibility report into Turnberry. IMO Slumbers made it a political issue when he referenced the owners

If the R&A don’t want to hold it there, they do not have to. They should have quietly ignored the issue, the way RLSA and Muirfield have been quietly ignored for a while…no comment that they’re ‘off’ the rota, just ignored

I’m ambivalent. Once you start making things political, you run the risk of hypocrisy and making everything political..

I’m old enough to remember when the beliefs of the England football manager were seen as a matter of national urgency, so PM Blair waded in and got the FA to remove Glenn Hoddle

We also are all old enough to remember Russia hosting the World Cup in 2018, and Qatar hosting it with ‘The Two Gary’s’ both being paid to go and work there, despite previous grandstanding - quelle surprise

There is a danger is explicitly posturing and politicking an issue, when quiet obsfucation could have been better

 

[Voyager EMH]

Potus might want Turnberry to host the open, but he's not holding the cards.
And will he remember to say, "Thank you" if it happens and what concessions should he make?

 

[Voyager EMH]

I’m old enough to remember when the beliefs of the England football manager were seen as a matter of national urgency, so PM Blair waded in and got the FA to remove Glenn Hoddle

PM's wading in was answering questions on ITV morning programme that went like this

“If he said what he is reported to have said, in the way he is reported to have said it, then I think that was very wrong,” Blair said. “The only thing I say is that I think it’s important that we establish whether he really did say it. I think if he really said it in the way he is reported to have said it, it is very offensive and…”

At this point he was interrupted, “So he should go?”

The Prime Minister paused. “It’s difficult for him to stay in those circumstances, yes.”

It is a bit of a stretch to say that this conversation "got the FA to remove Glenn Hoddle".

As to what influence the Sports Minister and the PM had after this conversation with regard to the FA's decision making, it is not for me to speculate without proof.

 

[IanM]

Can't have the Open there currently cos every pro Hamas, meat is murder, loon of all sorts will show up and disrupt the golf.

That's the way of the World. Meanwhile we have an equally strange dude in charge here too. I wonder if we should boycott ourselves??

 

[Starter]

The official reason it's not on the rota is poor infrastructure not who owns it.
If Trump was to sell it I bet that same infrastructure would no longer be a problem.

I doubt it.

There would still be the poor access by road, lack of a rail alternate and shortage of accomodation in the area.

 

[3 jabber]

I doubt it.

There would still be the poor access by road, lack of a rail alternate and shortage of accomodation in the area.

Have you ever been to Sandwich?

 

[Arthur Wedge]

There are multiple non golf reasons why the Open won’t be there

Just look at the recent attack there for protests

He is one of the most high profile figure in the world and the event would become a target

And then not even touching on him being an egomaniac and ensuring the event was all about him

It’s a great course but never should the Open be at somewhere called “Trump”