The fire in the House of Golf is a bigger story though. People can, and some will, follow the play itself. But its flat beer compared to the Saudi v PGAT contest.
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The accusation that Liv Players are past their best and can't compete on the main tours anymore looking a little off the mark with many having a strong showing in the DP Tours flagship event.
The truth is, the level of golf on all 3 tours is very strong indeed.
The truth is, the level of golf on all 3 tours is very strong indeed.
The Saudi tour is weak compared to the PGAT by a long shot. It has a handful of top players. But golf isnt like tennis or track and field where the best tend to win a high percentage of the time. Golfers are much more variable, and so more subject to the number of players in the field with the possibility of winning. The smaller field, and the only half dozen at best of the worlds top 30 mean it is a significantly weaker field. The world tour is about similar, given that his has the mediocre-strength, but in depth. It also lacks star power, which Saudi has a glimmer of.
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Well it is only the three rounds - they are used to that ??
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Really enjoyed watching the BMW..
Made up for Shane Lowry, defo one of my favourite players..
In a difficult golfing atmosphere the result probably please's everyone.
DP World Tour have one of their members and most popular players as the winner and their poster boy in 2nd place.
Liv has 6 of their players in the top 18, 10 made the cut and for those players they got the world ranking points they came for.
Made up for Shane Lowry, defo one of my favourite players..
In a difficult golfing atmosphere the result probably please's everyone.
DP World Tour have one of their members and most popular players as the winner and their poster boy in 2nd place.
Liv has 6 of their players in the top 18, 10 made the cut and for those players they got the world ranking points they came for.
Mel Smooth
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Rahm looking like the next rumoured candidate to make the switch.
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You really think that after what he has said in the media this week ?
I guess if there are no actual switches in in the pipeline, then LIV has to settle for putting out rumours to distract from the recruitment campaign having run out of steam well short of a serious tour.
BubbaP
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Find it interesting that in a few months a new tribalism has sprung up around professional golf.
Not sure if the possible additional interest outweighs the division. ?
Not sure if the possible additional interest outweighs the division. ?
Marshy77
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Tbh it wouldn't surprise me. He seemed pretty annoyed the other week. I can't see it but it wouldn't surprise me if he did. I think the main reason he wouldn't would be the pull of playing in the Ryder cup.
Mel Smooth
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That's a fair point, but, he has already expresed his annoyance about the RC, and that Sergio wouldn't be allowed to play.
Also, a few on here also said I was wrong when I said Stenson would be moving over to LIV because of RC loyalties, but that information proved to be correct.
With Rahm, it's much more a case of reading between the lines, but a few people that are usually clued up seem to be hinting it could be him.
BTatHome
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what's more amazing is the tribalism from posters on here, getting behind golfers that earn millions and trying to degrade other golfers that are trying to earn money to justify themselves.
honestly cant believe the way people on this forum are reacting and trying to justify every single thing that happens in professional golf as a reason why one tour is better, and the name calling is getting to be beyond ridiculous.
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There seems to be a pattern forming when it comes to the “rumours” being posted on social media
Whenever there is a major golf event that doesn’t involve LIV that’s when they start , it’s almost as if trying to keep LIV relevant when they don’t have an event on , happened at The Open , then the Fed Ex , etc and it was no surprise as soon as the PGA finished the “rumours” started again . The focus most of the time when it comes to LIV is more about what golfers they are trying to buy away as opposed to the actual golf - the rumour started on Twitter ( by your standard LIV’ers ) as a Top 10 player and then everyone’s ( other LIV’ers) imagination goes wild and it’s mainly the same names - Cantlay , Schuaffle, Hovland and Rahm.
Its imo LIV trying to keep up the relevance when the other tours are playing - right now if they are golf fans then it should be about the great play and finish at Wentworth
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It looks pretty obvious he isn't entirely on the same page as Rory and Tiger regarding the PGAT pkans
Majors wise he has a 10 year US Open exemption and 5 years in the other 3.
However I just can't see that happening at all at anytime.
He has always been against the Liv event format in all his interviews..
Oh and where is this rumour reported anyway??
Livs best chance of future top 10 players are Cantlay and Schauffele
Marshy77
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A large % of the rumours happened tbf.
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Tbf. If you name every player on the planet you are bound to get some right. ?
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Oh don’t get me wrong they always are signing new players as they go along and most of the time they are well known who the player is - mainly from the player reaction in press conferences etc , hence Cam Smith
The timing of the rumours are clearly done for a reason - it’s a very good marketing
The precedent of rumour realisation can now be exploited though, which buys them time, but only so much. There doesnt seem to be any serious grounds now, and rumour might be the extent of it. If they get Rahm, thats a big pull, and one or two more would mean everyones a loser, with two half tours.
That the signings seem to have stopped, and there wasnt the - rumoured ! - post Fedex exodus, suggests Saudi golf tour is stalled as it is, as far as big names. And they didnt get enough.
That the signings seem to have stopped, and there wasnt the - rumoured ! - post Fedex exodus, suggests Saudi golf tour is stalled as it is, as far as big names. And they didnt get enough.
Marshy77
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Very true. I was getting at the more serious rumours rather than the throw a dart kind of rumours
rksquire
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I'd be surprised if Rahm left, some of the names mentioned above did have advanced discussions with LIV but ultimately stayed where they are for the promise of additional riches. I'd be disappointed if Hovland moved at this stage of his career. Hideki's package for the additonal value he brings to the PGAT has yet to be finalised; Rahm and Fitzpatrick aren't on the same page as McIlroy; Cantlay & Xander (good friends) are waiting at the moment with the former being more interested - his choice of words are the most telling. Without doing much, LIV was a hot topic this week and the players played well, comfortable in a supposed competitive environment despite being retired. Plus, they picked up world ranking points.... Gooch even moved up the rankings! I think for anyone on the fence, the past 2 weeks have been interesting - a good finish last week where the golf actually grabbed some headlines in a positive way, a good showing this week in the DPWT with ranking points, and some interesting comments showing that not everyone within sanctioned tours are on the same page.
We're going to get rumours and nonesense from both sides to be honest. It does seem to be helping McIlroy's golf though, so long may it continue!
We're going to get rumours and nonesense from both sides to be honest. It does seem to be helping McIlroy's golf though, so long may it continue!
