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1st event concluded and a we've got ourselves a clear winner in the LIV Golf fantasy league - who now gets to go on a skiing holiday this weekend. Well done (y)

Get your teams in for the Vegas event which starts on Thursday this week. (y)

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Liv always scheduled its events against the weaker PGA Tour events in the past but I dont think that necessarily put the right schedule together for the players.

Interesting that this weekends Liv Event in Vegas goes up against one of the strongest PGA Tour events in the Waste Management which of all the PGA Tour events is the most like a Liv Event for atmosphere.

This weekend you also have the Superbowl in Vegas so both tours events finish on the Saturday.
I guess Liv are hoping that the sports fans in the city for the NFL will decide to go and watch some golf while they are there.
That could lead to a very different crowd indeed.
 
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Liv always scheduled its events against the weaker PGA Tour events in the past but I dont think that necessarily put the right schedule together for the players.

Interesting that this weekends Liv Event in Vegas goes up against one of the strongest PGA Tour events in the Waste Management which of all the PGA Tour events is the most like a Liv Event for atmosphere.

This weekend you also have the Superbowl in Vegas so both tours events finish on the Saturday.
I guess Liv are hoping that the sports fans in the city for the NFL will decide to go and watch some golf while they are there.
That could lead to a very different crowd indeed.

A bunch of members from our place have just come back from a trip to Vegas and the place is going mental for the Super Bowl - lots of fan parks etc all over the place , hotels do events for it all.

There wasn’t much around for the LIV event but is suspect they will try and grab those that arrive Friday/ Saturday and try and get them in by selling the party hole etc - but those tickets i believe are expensive so will be giving away ground passes

It could work and could create a different type of atmosphere- whether that’s one for a golf tournament will be interesting.
 

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A bunch of members from our place have just come back from a trip to Vegas and the place is going mental for the Super Bowl - lots of fan parks etc all over the place , hotels do events for it all.

There wasn’t much around for the LIV event but is suspect they will try and grab those that arrive Friday/ Saturday and try and get them in by selling the party hole etc - but those tickets i believe are expensive so will be giving away ground passes

It could work and could create a different type of atmosphere- whether that’s one for a golf tournament will be interesting.
Yes, Vegas is very different - mainly due to the ability to bet legally. I was there for a Superbowl weekend a few years ago (match was elsewhere) but have never seen so much cash being used to bet.

The LIV event will be a sports fan event, not a golf event, so imagine the US Ryder Cup at Bethpage on steroids!
 

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A bunch of members from our place have just come back from a trip to Vegas and the place is going mental for the Super Bowl - lots of fan parks etc all over the place , hotels do events for it all.

There wasn’t much around for the LIV event but is suspect they will try and grab those that arrive Friday/ Saturday and try and get them in by selling the party hole etc - but those tickets i believe are expensive so will be giving away ground passes

It could work and could create a different type of atmosphere- whether that’s one for a golf tournament will be interesting.

I cant see them just giving away passes, that's not happened since the first season? Where have you seen that?

Surely its money to be made from US sports fans!
 

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I cant see them just giving away passes, that's not happened since the first season? Where have you seen that?

Surely its money to be made from US sports fans!

I can definitely see them giving away tickets for free, if it gets people into the event and looks busy that is a big plus for LIV that they havent had at any event really other than the Australian one.
 

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I can definitely see them giving away tickets for free, if it gets people into the event and looks busy that is a big plus for LIV that they havent had at any event really other than the Australian one.

If that’s the case, why didn’t they do that this past weekend?
 
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I can definitely see them giving away tickets for free, if it gets people into the event and looks busy that is a big plus for LIV that they havent had at any event really other than the Australian one.
Exactly that - the Mexico one looked like a ghost town and getting people into the grounds will give the picture that it’s a busy event

They have a captive audience to get people in - Vegas will be rammed

If that’s the case, why didn’t they do that this past weekend?

Maybe they tried but as with the free coverage even that’s not enough to get people interested
 

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If that’s the case, why didn’t they do that this past weekend?

there could be many answers to that question.

But having an event in Vegas the same weekend as the Superbowl gives them quite a unique opportunity to have every hole lined with a crowd and create a real atmosphere on the course. If they can do that, it would be great to see.
 

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there could be many answers to that question.

But having an event in Vegas the same weekend as the Superbowl gives them quite a unique opportunity to have every hole lined with a crowd and create a real atmosphere on the course. If they can do that, it would be great to see.

Well if they do give tickets away, it’s gonna be made public. Expect we’ll start seeing people reporting on free Liv tickets imminently if that’s the case.
 

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Possibly, they might go for something under the radar and just advertise within Vegas for those who are there already.

I don’t think you can expect to give tens of thousands of tickets away to see a world class golf event and keep it under the radar. But, we’ll see.
 

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I don’t think you can expect to give tens of thousands of tickets away to see a world class golf event and keep it under the radar. But, we’ll see.

Oh, no doubt it would come out in the press, but I dont expect to see a LIV marketing push of "Free tickets for the Vegas". Would be quite easy to offer a ticket to everybody who has a room booked for a hotel in Vegas for example.
 
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What does need to stop from LIV is the constant crying about access to majors and ranking points

they all made a choice knowing the consequences of that choice , none of them were forced to go to LIV , if they were told they would get ranking points etc then they need to bring that up with who told them that

But it’s time for them to move on and deal with their choices
 
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I watched Liv for the first time last night, because I tend to watch golf on Sunday evening and nothing else was on.

The golf was good, with a lot of top players now. But man that course is awful, and easy. No different to when it was a PGAT stop though. One shot where Rahm was in the 'primary rough' was 20 yards from the fairway with a better lie than most summer course fairways.

The broadcast is also good, some of the graphics are great, very modern looks to it all - av score from L/C/R for tee shots being the best. Need to get rid of that awful putting thing though, its fine before a putt but not during it. I was expecting to see more shots than I did, but it seems they now have a good balance between showing shots and not racing around to show every shot. The leaderboard is fine and non-obtrusive but they need to stop making changes to it and then show the shots after - you know when the putt is going in that way!

Commentary made me feel queasy, but that might be a general dislike of Feherty more than anything else - other opinions are fine and valid. But also don't say things like 'Mayakoba is the traditional home of the Liv season kick-off' and 'he is now in major contention on championship Sunday!'.

The team stuff is awful - it is just a non-event yet constantly rammed down your throat. None of them play together, which is odd as no on-course camaraderie, and then they just add stuff up at the end and declare a champion, when you can tell no individual gives it a second thought when they're playing. They should make Thursday a team day, play some matchplay, mix it up with foursomes/betterball/singles/scramble/celeb partner etc. Either that or have something like 10 individual and 6 team events through the season. Properly lean into it, create some rivalry, have players in same team playing. Just seems like a massive missed opportunity to actually diversify away from tradition.

Shotgun start isnt for me, especially when you consider the final group lost 2 holes. And I like to see the back 9 unfold evenly, not jumping around holes or understanding exactly who has what holes left, it struggles to build a story.

The music is awful on the broadcast. You can tell the players dont like it either. Just bin it.

The total market of viewers for golf isn't going to grow at any noticeable rate. I don't understand why they have chosen to compete with some of the PGAT Signature events tbh, when there is ample opportunity to schedule it on other weekends. Having watched it last night, I would rather watch Liv than, for example, the Amex. But I'm not going to watch it up against Pebble, WM, etc. I'm also not going to watch it outside of Sunday eve, which is just the time I usually watch any golf (outside of majors). So it might be the only time I watch it this year.
 
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