LIV Golf

[Backsticks]

Bang out of order that…..




….Chase Koepka wasn’t even good enough to qualify for any tour in the first place

Does OWGR give ranking points for being the relation of a world class golfer ?

 

[SteveW86]

Does OWGR give ranking points for being the relation of a world class golfer ?

No, but LIV will give them a bucket full of cash

 

[doublebogey7]

Most leagues make relegation a key feature - you know this. It's just refreshing to see it in golf, where the norm is for players to drop off tours without causing a ripple.

Bloody hell man have you been on the pop. All Pro golf tours have had promation and relegation since Old Tom was a lad and the only ripple that LiV is making is in your head.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

Bloody hell man have you been on the pop. All Pro golf tours have had promation and relegation since Old Tom was a lad and the only ripple that LiV is making is in your head.

They should bring in a system where people gain or lose the right to play on a tour, let’s call it their “card”.
Maybe they could go up from the Korn Ferry, challenge, Symetra tours, and be relegated from the main tours to those lower tours.

Copy LIV and bring that in I would suggest

 

[Mel Smooth]

They should bring in a system where people gain or lose the right to play on a tour, let’s call it their “card”.
Maybe they could go up from the Korn Ferry, challenge, Symetra tours, and be relegated from the main tours to those lower tours.

Copy LIV and bring that in I would suggest

You obviously got caught up in the usual pile on James. The point I'm making is those players who are fighting in the relegation battle are getting a sizeable amount of discussion within the broadcast.
That aspect is something you rarely see in traditional tour golf - the players that are no good just fall off the tour, but at least on LIV, they get a decent send off..

Bernd Wiesberger looks like his tea's oot.. Probably needs to climb up to around a 12th place finish to remain with LIV next year. The rest have no chance.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

You obviously got caught up in the usual pile on James. The point I'm making is those players who are fighting in the relegation battle are getting a sizeable amount of discussion within the broadcast.
That aspect is something you rarely see in traditional tour golf - the players that are no good just fall off the tour, but at least on LIV, they get a decent send off..

Bernd Wiesberger looks like his tea's oot.. Probably needs to climb up to around a 12th place finish to remain with LIV next year. The rest have no chance.

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You’re obviously wearing your blinkers still Mel. At the end of the season both the PGA and European tours focus a large part of the coverage and discussion on those at the bottom of the pile looking to hold onto their cards.

 

[Mel Smooth]

You’re obviously wearing your blinkers still Mel. At the end of the season both the PGA and European tours focus a large part of the coverage and discussion on those at the bottom of the pile looking to hold onto their cards.

Ah right, I'll keep an eye out for it then.

 

[WGCRider]

You’re obviously wearing your blinkers still Mel. At the end of the season both the PGA and European tours focus a large part of the coverage and discussion on those at the bottom of the pile looking to hold onto their cards.

I honestly think this is the wrong way round. Looking at LIV - objectively golf is being played and if you can award ranking points for the Asian development tour you can award points for LIV. The issue is that if I wanted to play on the Asian development tour or the PGA tour the pathway for me to do that is clear. With LIV it's not - it play well or know someone and wait for an invite. So sure relegation is part of it, but the lack of pathway for joining is a bigger issue

 

[Backsticks]

I honestly think this is the wrong way round. Looking at LIV - objectively golf is being played and if you can award ranking points for the Asian development tour you can award points for LIV. The issue is that if I wanted to play on the Asian development tour or the PGA tour the pathway for me to do that is clear. With LIV it's not - it play well or know someone and wait for an invite. So sure relegation is part of it, but the lack of pathway for joining is a bigger issue

The other tours have sufficient intermingling or shuffling of the field, to permit cross comparisons.

LIV, with few tournaments, and only a minority of its employees playing a handful of non LIV golf to measure against the other thousands of pro golfers on tours, makes it impossible to evaluate their level.

 

[DPapas1982]

The idea if relegation in LIV is pointless anyway. Yes they may be getting coverage on their show, but who cares.
These are golfers who comparatively speaking are useless. Should you really get ranking points comparative to pga level for beating them?

 

[wjemather]

The idea if relegation in LIV is pointless anyway. Yes they may be getting coverage on their show, but who cares.
These are golfers who comparatively speaking are useless. Should you really get ranking points comparative to pga level for beating them?

Literally no-one is saying they should.

 

[wjemather]

The other tours have sufficient intermingling or shuffling of the field, to permit cross comparisons.

LIV, with few tournaments, and only a minority of its employees playing a handful of non LIV golf to measure against the other thousands of pro golfers on tours, makes it impossible to evaluate their level.

Seriously, please try doing just 2 minutes of research before posting. As I've said before, whatever valid point you may have is constantly undermined by your seemingly pathological insistence on making up stuff and peddling falsehoods to justify it.

Not a minority - actually all, with many playing quite regularly outside LIV.
Not impossible - as indicated by owgr themselves, and definitively proven by other ranking systems.

 

[Backsticks]

Literally no-one is saying they should.

Nobody is saying they shouldnt get points either. Its just that when there is no common reference, other than when a subset of them intersect the open golf world in the majors, to determine how many points they merit when playing in their closed bubble. So the only time you can judge them, and give them points, is in the majors.
I am surprised a little that its a bone of contention with LIVers though. They jumped for the money. Not competitive golf careers, wins, career legacy, etc. PIF is paying them, so bank the money, buy the mansions and jets, a get on with you round the world exhibition events.

 

[wjemather]

Nobody is saying they shouldnt get points either. Its just that when there is no common reference, other than when a subset of them intersect the open golf world in the majors, to determine how many points they merit when playing in their closed bubble. So the only time you can judge them, and give them points, is in the majors.
I am surprised a little that its a bone of contention with LIVers though. They jumped for the money. Not competitive golf careers, wins, career legacy, etc. PIF is paying them, so bank the money, buy the mansions and jets, a get on with you round the world exhibition events.

That is exactly what some people have been saying. As for they rest of your post - read my previous one. Utter drivel, as usual on this subject.

 

[Mel Smooth]

Great to Richard Bland perform so well again, he keeps his place on the tour next year after another solid weekend. Interesting to hear him say how much his game has improved by playing along the likes of Bryson, Cam etc on a regular basis, in comparison to the DPWT where he’d be relying on a lucky draw to experience playing with a world class player.

 

[SteveW86]

Great to Richard Bland perform so well again, he keeps his place on the tour next year after another solid weekend. Interesting to hear him say how much his game has improved by playing along the likes of Bryson, Cam etc on a regular basis, in comparison to the DPWT where he’d be relying on a lucky draw to experience playing with a world class player.

Blandy is certainly a player whose life has changed significantly since the start of LIV. The tour win he eventually got has had a serious knock on effect for him.

Stoneham is relatively invested with Blandy playing and Tom on social media

 

[Backsticks]

Great to Richard Bland perform so well again, he keeps his place on the tour next year after another solid weekend. Interesting to hear him say how much his game has improved by playing along the likes of Bryson, Cam etc on a regular basis, in comparison to the DPWT where he’d be relying on a lucky draw to experience playing with a world class player.

An example that shows the weakness of LIV - too many golfers who are truly out of their league, who in an unrigged tour are not at the level to really play on merit with world class golfers.

 

[Beezerk]

An example that shows the weakness of LIV - too many golfers who are truly out of their league, who in an unrigged tour are not at the level to really play on merit with world class golfers.

Christ you never stop do you

 

[Mel Smooth]

An example that shows the weakness of LIV - too many golfers who are truly out of their league, who in an unrigged tour are not at the level to really play on merit with world class golfers.

I’m gonna set you to ignore Backsticks.

Your views are beyond idiotic.

 

[RedEyes]

The crowd has gone wild there today