Swango1980
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They didn't do a deal with LIV. They did a deal with PIF.
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The ET has been on the decline for at least 20 years, you could say closer to 25/30.
Mel Smooth
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Faldo trying to grasp some media coverage for his own event by having a go at the competition is quite funny actually.
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yep, and some people lapping it up.
Mel Smooth
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But, it has never been as abysmal as it is now. There are some great golfers from Europe, and some fantastic venues, but the PGAT has sucked the life from the European Tour - which is a shame.
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Why is it always the fault of the PGAT ?
They aren’t the ones that forced all the top Europeans to leave the ET and play elsewhere ?
The players made that choice going back to the 90’s when they started to move across
Mel Smooth
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Why are you always looking for an argument that often isn’t there to be had.
I’m not trying to apportion blame to anybody, just pointing out that it’s a shame that we no longer get top players competing frequently on some of the worlds best golf courses.
Take a chill pill phil..
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But you were apportioning blame onto the PGAT ?
“but the PGAT has sucked the life from the European Tour”
Does LIV have a part to play as they took a lot of the top Europeans as well and put up events against European Tour events
It’s a simple question why do you always blame the PGAT for everything?
No one is looking for an argument - you made a post on a thread and someone has responded to that, that’s how forums work
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“PGA tour bad, LIV tour good”. It’s all you need to know.
BubbaP
Occasional Player of Golf
Odd how two journalists report the whole interview so differently...
Nick Faldo delivers brutal blow to LIV Golf: 'Nobody's interested'
The British Masters host talked about a range of matters - but it was golf's political issues that had him most animated, as Alex Perry found outwww.bunkered.co.uk
Ouch
Best lines for me:
"I just watched the Tour de France on Netflix," the 65-year-old said.
"My goodness, guys crashing and throwing up and beyond exhaustion. It was pretty compelling. And what did we see? We saw Justin Thomas go down to CVS to get some cough drops."
AussieKB
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Thought Graeme McDowell's reply was very mature, am more surprised that Nick could not get anyone to play in the event that he is hosting, he should be having words with European players on the PGAT more then talking about LIV.
Mel Smooth
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If reported ticket sales and gate predictions are correct, there'll be more people attending Valderramma than there were in attendance for the most recent major over in the USA - so, it clearly shows Faldo hasn't really been paying much attention.
Pin-seeker
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That was down to the course the US open was played on.
Could’ve probably sold out 10 times over.
simsini
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Except the same could be said in reverse for many of the comments here. I like watching the PGA Tour, the European Tour and LIV, why wouldn't I, I love golf. It just seems on here some people bemoan LIV, when really the PGA Tour made a rod for its own back.
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Just watched all the Liv players press conferences.
Got to think they have been given some inside info and they dont look worried about the future of Liv at all.
None of them have said on the record at Valdarama they are in any hurry to play the PGA Tour again and that included Brooks and DJ.
The PGAT players press conferences are defo more edgy but I suppose that is mainly because they feel their tour has blindsided them with the hypocritical U turn.
Very difficult to predict what is going to happen with this merger.
Got to think they have been given some inside info and they dont look worried about the future of Liv at all.
None of them have said on the record at Valdarama they are in any hurry to play the PGA Tour again and that included Brooks and DJ.
The PGAT players press conferences are defo more edgy but I suppose that is mainly because they feel their tour has blindsided them with the hypocritical U turn.
Very difficult to predict what is going to happen with this merger.
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Thats 100% true, to suggest Liv Valdarama is up there with a pull of the US Open is ridiculous.
LACC had no infrastructure for a large amount of fans but corporately it was the most profitable US Open ever for the USGA, another nod to that its ALL ABOUT THE MONEY..
Mel Smooth
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The point being made is that Faldos “nobody is interested in LIV” line is misinformed.
The amount of spectators turning up for Valderamma substantiates that.
I suspect Faldo has paid little attention to LIV, and if he was questioned over it he’d only be able to give vague answers.
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You have highlighted a strength of Liv where every event features their best players every time.
British Masters used to be a marquee event but has suffered from the decline in the European tour.
The owner of Valdarama said today that he moved to Liv because there had been a huge decline in the field at their european event over many years.
Its a big plus for them and their sponsors to know they are guaranteed the strongest field every time with their Liv event.
Bdill93
Undisputed King of FOMO
Even the PGAT are doing it with their elevated events..
Just got me thinking though - why don't DPWT just say the same thing - play "these" events or face fines or loss of card if you don't.
wjemather
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Even with an increase in top players joining the PGAT since the mid-1990s, most were still returning to play more than half a dozen regular ET events - since the event minimums were changed in 2016, almost immediately after KP arrived, with the sole purpose of making it easier for players not qualifying for majors and WGCs to play in the US and retain ET membership, the story is very different.
The creation of the Rolex Series to try and entice them back for more tournaments largely failed (with players even skipping the PGA and Tour Championship) and the number of Rolex events was reduced accordingly. Co-sanctioning now seems to be the only way they'll enhance the fields, which necessarily restricts opportunities for the rank and file who keep the tour going on a weekly basis (unless field sizes increase and events are played over two courses) - shame.
Sending the top-10 not already exempt to the US every year is only going to accelerate the decline of regular fields.
