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I think he meant realistically capable of winning a major in future, not how many have won in past. Otherwise I suspect the Seniors Tour has a stellar field?
To give LIV credit where it is due though, they do have a decent line up of former PGAT winners, and for those who are fans of some of them, its probably nice to still see them play even while their careers are winding down. I always like to hear McDowell interviewed for example. That accent !
 
I thought so, but seeing Brooks on Netflix, I doubt think even he believes he has the game.

Reed definitely has the game, as he has the rare ability of being able to lose a ball but claim a different ball as his own :)

His strokes gained for drops is top of the rankings.
 
MAYbies....Smith, DJ, Bryson. As for the other, I have a better chance of winning a major.
Golf can be an unpredictable game though.
Y.E.Yang, B Curtis, S Micheel, T Hamilton, M Weir, Z Johnson, D Clarke, etc....

Future gazing is hard, but could these definitely not win one in their career?
Niemann, Ancer, Gooch, Wolff, Pieters, Pereira, Varner, Chacarra

Or maybe at least have more of a chance than you! 😉😁😅😉
 
Golf can be an unpredictable game though.
Y.E.Yang, B Curtis, S Micheel, T Hamilton, M Weir, Z Johnson, D Clarke, etc....

Future gazing is hard, but could these definitely not win one in their career?
Niemann, Ancer, Gooch, Wolff, Pieters, Pereira, Varner, Chacarra

Or maybe at least have more of a chance than you! 😉😁😅😉

Well Pereira is the only one to get anywhere near and bottled it big type

Not sure if any of the others have many top tens between them and certainly not shown a high level game to step up and win one -maybe Niemann is the closest
 
Are You Tube not even showing it now ?

Looking at the first event compared to this upcoming event it’s tough to see where they have progressed - adding Cam Smith is prob the one big key thing they didn’t after the initial bunch arrived

Just had a look at the “merchandise” they are selling and it just seems to be hats ?


I would have thought they would be pushing the team shirts and apparel etc

Aussie event sold out in days so progression there if you look for it.
They should have more there as my mate lives in Melbourne and says Liv is not viewed in the same way as in the USA and UK
 
Well Pereira is the only one to get anywhere near and bottled it big type

Not sure if any of the others have many top tens between them and certainly not shown a high level game to step up and win one -maybe Niemann is the closest

Not sure what top 10 has to do with anything, everyone has a chance, history tells us that, on their week anyone is capable if all the stars align, regardless of your tour or ranking.
Even you won the 2018 Matchplay, no one fancied you to do it, but you pulled it out of the bag 😂😂😂
 
Not sure what top 10 has to do with anything, everyone has a chance, history tells us that, on their week anyone is capable if all the stars align, regardless of your tour or ranking.
Even you won the 2018 Matchplay, no one fancied you to do it, but you pulled it out of the bag 😂😂😂
matchplay 🤷‍♂️

Yes everyone has a chance but rare for players to win them without showing any high level of consistent form in the majors or even on tour
 
Well Pereira is the only one to get anywhere near and bottled it big type

Not sure if any of the others have many top tens between them and certainly not shown a high level game to step up and win one -maybe Niemann is the closest
Come on Phil, read the whole post!
If you are seriously saying forum member cleveland52 has more chance than Periera then please lighten up take the blinkers off!
 
Come on Phil, read the whole post!
If you are seriously saying forum member cleveland52 has more chance than Periera then please lighten up take the blinkers off!

My response was about the players you talked about 🤷‍♂️ I ignored all the other nonsense
 
My response was about the players you talked about 🤷‍♂️ I ignored all the other nonsense
Right, so translation - you ignore any points that don't suit your negative narrative.
Did all those major winners (& you know there are more, just became bored typing), did they all fit your blueprint perfectly?
 
It isn't because you are old. For example, if Mel Smooth or anyone else wrote a 20 paragraph post on how great Cameron Smith is, along with how amazing LIV is, I'm sure you'd get through more than a few lines?

You only lasted a few lines because you don't like what you were reading. Which is fine, I guess that is not an uncommon human reaction :)
Wrong, I don't read a lot of what Mel or others write if it is a short Novel, a read books for that.
 
One of the Club's I am a member of has it's Club Champ's over 54 holes, if only we patented it could sue LIV and the PGA when they shorten their comp's. (Did not mentiond DP because they are a feeder Tour now)
 
Right, so translation - you ignore any points that don't suit your negative narrative.
Did all those major winners (& you know there are more, just became bored typing), did they all fit your blueprint perfectly?

Think you may have got the wrong end of the stick here

I ignored someone going on about them having more of a chance of winning a major because I took for a joke and didn’t find it relevant so didn’t ignore it because of any agenda

Yes a number of players have won a major out of the blue but it’s very rare as you can see from the last 20 odd majors and even some of those LIV players you mentioned won’t even be in the majors.
 
Watching Full Swing last night....

DJ was absolutely clear. "I had a great PGA career, now I'm off for more money to play less golf."

Totally respect his decision. Any of us with kids might do the same...especially if you're a Poulter or Westwood on the back 9 of their careers.

If DJ qualifies for a Major as a past winner, he should be allowed to play. He's resigned from everything else, so what's the issue?

I resigned from Credit Suisse to go elsewhere, but I want to go back in Fridays for pizza and donuts? Funnily enough I wouldn't get in the building. Maybe I should sue?
 
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Watching Full Swing last night....

DJ was absolutely clear. "I had a great PGA career, now I'm off for more money to play less golf."

Totally respect his decision. Any of us with kids might do the same...especially if you're a Poulter or Westwood on the back 9 of their careers.

If DJ qualifies for a Major as a past winner, he should be allowed to play. He's resigned from everything else, so what's the issue?

I resigned from Credit Suisse to go elsewhere, but I want to go back in Fridays for pizza and donuts? Funnily enough I wouldn't get in the building. Maybe I should sue?
I don't think there is, is there? I know there is always talk on the mainstream and social media, but thus far LIV players have not been banned from any of the 4 Majors. And, if any player meets the qualifying criteria then I certainly don't see why they should be banned. I wouldn't be in favour of that.
 
Watching Full Swing last night....

DJ was absolutely clear. "I had a great PGA career, now I'm off for more money to play less golf."

Totally respect his decision. Any of us with kids might do the same...especially if you're a Poulter or Westwood on the back 9 of their careers.

If DJ qualifies for a Major as a past winner, he should be allowed to play. He's resigned from everything else, so what's the issue?

I resigned from Credit Suisse to go elsewhere, but I want to go back in Fridays for pizza and donuts? Funnily enough I wouldn't get in the building. Maybe I should sue?
I'm wary of dipping back into this thread, but here goes. All of the other tours currently co-exist. Players from the PGA Tour will sometimes come across and play in European Tour events, Asian Tour etc. Criss crossing happens a lot of the time in all directions. LIV would like the same scenario, for their players to be members of other tours where possible and for those who want to play more golf, to play more tournaments. DJ, and others, resigned to avoid a big fine from the PGA. They probably would not have resigned had that threat not been there.

I saw the same episode last night and it sounded as though LIV tournaments plus Majors is enough for DJ For others though, they like playing more and would do so if allowed. I suspect Patrick Reed is in that group, he has always played in a number of European events on top of PGA tournaments.

The PGA are not allowing this as they see the other tours as subservient, they see LIV as a threat. Interestingly, in this show a number of players have talked about the tours co-existing as the others already do. It's possible, the template is already there. I get your analogy but the current set up with the other tours shows that does not have to be the case.
 
I'm wary of dipping back into this thread, but here goes. All of the other tours currently co-exist. Players from the PGA Tour will sometimes come across and play in European Tour events, Asian Tour etc. Criss crossing happens a lot of the time in all directions. LIV would like the same scenario, for their players to be members of other tours where possible and for those who want to play more golf, to play more tournaments. DJ, and others, resigned to avoid a big fine from the PGA. They probably would not have resigned had that threat not been there.

I saw the same episode last night and it sounded as though LIV tournaments plus Majors is enough for DJ For others though, they like playing more and would do so if allowed. I suspect Patrick Reed is in that group, he has always played in a number of European events on top of PGA tournaments.

The PGA are not allowing this as they see the other tours as subservient, they see LIV as a threat. Interestingly, in this show a number of players have talked about the tours co-existing as the others already do. It's possible, the template is already there. I get your analogy but the current set up with the other tours shows that does not have to be the case.

The other tours are able to co exist with each mainly due to geography

The relevant tours don’t in the main host events that directly go against each other - they all stay within their boundaries

LIV are hosting events directly against each tour - well the two main tours , they are hosted events in the US , in Europe etc

That seems them as a direct competitor to the main tours

For me it would be the same as someone starting a European SL and then the clubs wanting to play in that and also play in the Champions League

Also use the darts anology - when the PDC was started they didn’t allow players to play in both

The ICL was also a good comparison
 
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