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[BubbaP]

Those not interested, and not planning to watch/follow, feel free to scroll on by. TIA

Now it seems finalised (for now), reflecting that overall perceived strength has gone up a little from the part year. As expected (for me), no new top 20 names joining but feels like several teams may be more evenly matched than last year. Remains to be seen how that plays out and the general reaction to it.
Couple of players I was interested to see if they made it into teams, but didn't, are Adrian Ortaegui & Sadom Kaewkanjana. Of course that may be their choice. Swafford going injured for most of the year does remind how precarious pro golf can be.
I'm sticking by my original view, that I'll judge it after a year.

 

[Imurg]

A change to Open qualifying..........

https://twitter.com/x/status/1628054458969063426

 

[Backsticks]

A change to Open qualifying..........

https://twitter.com/x/status/1628054458969063426

Probably to make way for a few LIV specific exemptions.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Those not interested, and not planning to watch/follow, feel free to scroll on by. TIA

Now it seems finalised (for now), reflecting that overall perceived strength has gone up a little from the part year. As expected (for me), no new top 20 names joining but feels like several teams may be more evenly matched than last year. Remains to be seen how that plays out and the general reaction to it.
Couple of players I was interested to see if they made it into teams, but didn't, are Adrian Ortaegui & Sadom Kaewkanjana. Of course that may be their choice. Swafford going injured for most of the year does remind how precarious pro golf can be.
I'm sticking by my original view, that I'll judge it after a year.

Have to say the recruits this year have been very poor if they are looking to move that needle a bit more.

And i thought Sadom was the big superstar

I thought they would have got someone from the PGAT in the top 20 - a Cantlay etc

Looks like it’s all a bit flat

 

[cleveland52]

A change to Open qualifying..........

https://twitter.com/x/status/1628054458969063426

Lawsuit on the way. Sympathizers will claim that they earned it, and no one can take it away.....

 

[BubbaP]

Probably to make way for a few LIV specific exemptions.

Maybe. It could be interpreted that removing qualifying based on Ryder & Presidents Cup appearances is acknowledgement that with not all players now being allowed to play in them, makes them not the best measure any more.

 

[BubbaP]

Lawsuit on the way. Sympathizers will claim that they earned it, and no one can take it away.....

Lawsuits from Taylor Pendrith and Cameron Davis ?

 

[doublebogey7]

More innovation from LiV, you can only admire their imagination
https://golf.com/news/liv-broadcast-2023-tape-delay/?amp=1

 

[Shep1]

More innovation from LiV, you can only admire their imagination
https://golf.com/news/liv-broadcast-2023-tape-delay/?amp=1

Seems quite a reasonable way to maximise viewers, therefore revenue from ads.

 

[BubbaP]

Have to say the recruits this year have been very poor if they are looking to move that needle a bit more.

And i thought Sadom was the big superstar

I thought they would have got someone from the PGAT in the top 20 - a Cantlay etc

Looks like it’s all a bit flat

I would have agreed (recruits) early last summer, but I don’t think many expected the PGAT to react as big (financially) , or as quickly as they did. Those top few PGAT players now have far more influence than ever before, and may be pushing further changes. Rory banked a truck load of wonga last year & Rahm etc. will this year. Hence I expected them to stay put and maybe see how this year pans out, how liv goes, whether they have to change format and iron out issues (or they jack it in!). And how the PGAT changes bed in.

A bit old, Scott (not top 20) on how basing himself back in US due to the schedule changes.
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/adam-scott-preparing-2023-pga-tour-season-living-in-us
Poss PGAT future..
https://www.golfchannel.com/news/wh...uture-designated-fields-look-heres-suggestion

 

[doublebogey7]

Seems quite a reasonable way to maximise viewers, therefore revenue from ads.

I hadn't realised afternoons were prime time viewing in the states.

 

[Deleted member 29109]

When are they announcing the $billion team sponsorship deals?

 

[BubbaP]

I hadn't realised afternoons were prime time viewing in the states.

Assumed part of the drive to TV in the US was to pacify/lure the senior US audience, many who couldn't manage streaming. (PGAT average viewer age alleged to be 64). The same demographic were oft quoted with not liking golf in 'other time zones'.
Agree it does seem odd though, generally sports are live or highlights only for me.

 

[Shep1]

I hadn't realised afternoons were prime time viewing in the states.

I didn't mention 'prime time', just maximising viewers. I'd like to think they (CW) employ folk who know about optimising viewers etc. And there's 4 time zones to consider too.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I would have agreed (recruits) early last summer, but I don’t think many expected the PGAT to react as big (financially) , or as quickly as they did. Those top few PGAT players now have far more influence than ever before, and may be pushing further changes. Rory banked a truck load of wonga last year & Rahm etc. will this year. Hence I expected them to stay put and maybe see how this year pans out, how liv goes, whether they have to change format and iron out issues (or they jack it in!). And how the PGAT changes bed in.

A bit old, Scott (not top 20) on how basing himself back in US due to the schedule changes.
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/adam-scott-preparing-2023-pga-tour-season-living-in-us
Poss PGAT future..
https://www.golfchannel.com/news/wh...uture-designated-fields-look-heres-suggestion

It’s going to wither away

They gave it a good go but need a bottomless pit of billions- even then they really only got one real current star - Smith and that’s down to the Norman Aussie connection

They have failed to get sponsers , major media deals , no further major stars

No one in the top 20 will go now - suspect they have made a strong commitment to the PGAT

I don’t think it will be long before we see some looking to move back the other way

 

[BubbaP]

When are they announcing the $billion team sponsorship deals?

Go for it !
https://www.paigntonzoo.org.uk/adopt-an-animal/adopt-a-goat/

 

[BubbaP]

It’s going to wither away

They gave it a good go but need a bottomless pit of billions- even then they really only got one real current star - Smith and that’s down to the Norman Aussie connection

They have failed to get sponsers , major media deals , no further major stars

No one in the top 20 will go now - suspect they have made a strong commitment to the PGAT

I don’t think it will be long before we see some looking to move back the other way

The legendary LPhil crystal ball !

Maybe, I dunno. Prefer to wait and see.
Same as I don't know if Honda pulling out of hosting is just a coincidence, or a sign post.
Bet Jay would love Tiger to stop saying he only wants to play in the majors though

 

[Deleted member 15344]

The legendary LPhil crystal ball !

Maybe, I dunno. Prefer to wait and see.
Same as I don't know if Honda pulling out of hosting is just a coincidence, or a sign post.
Bet Jay would love Tiger to stop saying he only wants to play in the majors though

Isn’t Honda pulling out more to do with the way the elevated events are scheduled around it so they know the field will prob be the weaker one

 

[BubbaP]

Isn’t Honda pulling out more to do with the way the elevated events are scheduled around it so they know the field will prob be the weaker one

Would expect so. Whilst there has always been tiers within the schedule, now it is more extreme and heavily publicised that may create some new challenges.

 

[doublebogey7]

I didn't mention 'prime time', just maximising viewers. I'd like to think they (CW) employ folk who know about optimising viewers etc. And there's 4 time zones to consider too.

I am sure they do, and they realise to optimise their total advertsing revenue, putting LiV on prime time is not going to be very helpful. I can see for them the attraction of having consistent timing across the tournaments, be interesting then to see the viewing figures for those on delay. Can't see many trying to do a Terry and Bob (something for the younger viewers), in the age of social media in order to watch as if it was Live.