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JamesR said:
We’re into conspiracy theories now are we?
Was Monaghan the man behind the grassy knoll?
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So you think it’s wrong to question whether Golf Monthly are one of the organisations included in this ……

244. As part of its efforts to foreclose competition from LIV Golf and to foreclose competition for Plaintiffs’ services, the Tour has also threatened companies and individuals in the golf and sports production industry that they will be blackballed from working with the Tour if they work with LIV Golf.
 
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Mel Smooth said:
So you think it’s wrong to question whether Golf Monthly are one of the organisations included in this ……

244. As part of its efforts to foreclose competition from LIV Golf and to foreclose competition for Plaintiffs’ services, the Tour has also threatened companies and individuals in the golf and sports production industry that they will be blackballed from working with the Tour if they work with LIV Golf.
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I don't really care
 
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The Lion said:
It’s his home tour and they left it for murder money. He’s entitled to feel aggrieved.

It’s just wrong. None of them should be playing.
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The best players who qualify to play should be playing. This guy is 681st in the world and is moaning that guys ahead of him in the OGWR are playing?
 
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Liverpoolphil said:
Challenged? Do you mean the lawsuit that players are pulling out of ? And some of the players have resigned as PGAT members ?‍♂️ So they are just LIV members ?

But the point BIM was clear - if they want to play on LIV and another tour then they are going to play a minimum of 28/29 events

The players right now that play on two tours have a number of events that double up - majors , WGC - that’s ten events alone that count on both tours , so the likes of Rory will play around 20 events , same with anyone who plays two tours where majors count


I guess if that’s all they are motivated by then they will be happy with the money

I suspect other golfers already have a lot of money but also want to compete for the prestige to win some of the tournaments in the name of the greats or comps that the greats have won before.
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Blue in Munich said:
So let’s say that they currently do 26 events a year; how many of those LIV events will the PGA Tour and the DPWT agree to be co-sanctioned so that the LIV players who want to play both tours don’t have to do the full 15 on that tour as well in order to meet their membership criteria? A round number I’d suggest as they would be giving LIV exactly what they want and depriving some of their members of opportunities in order to accommodate LIV players. Let’s be totally honest here, the only reason that LIV players want these spaces is for ranking points.

I just don’t get how players who state that they want to play less can achieve that playing on two tours? And it’s just something else that doesn’t add up in the statements from LIV, which makes me suspicious of it. I’m not seeing how what they are doing will grow the game. They may take it to areas of the world that haven’t had tournaments before but that to me isn’t necessarily growing the game, it’s showcasing it. How will the increase access to the game for this new audience?

Re the broken record, you are coming across as a PGA and/or DPW Tour hater, and as you say yourself, hater’s gonna hate…
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You need to understand what player's are trying to achieve and it's not co sanctioned events.
 
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Has the Fox Deal actually been announced as done ?

Guardian today
LIV Golf described Golfweek’s report as “incomplete and inaccurate” when contacted by the Guardian but declined to comment on the potential implications of the FCC regulations, which require disclosure at the time of a broadcast if a foreign governmental entity paid a radio or television station, directly or indirectly, to air material.

“LIV Golf has exceeded expectations and remains ahead of schedule across numerous fronts, including broadcast rights,” the spokesperson said. “As we have stated previously, LIV Golf is just beginning its process and is in active discussions with several companies about broadcasting the LIV Golf League. We caution that no one should draw any conclusions about potential media rights given that we are still in the middle of negotiations with several outlets.”
 
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Liverpoolphil said:
I suspect other golfers already have a lot of money but also want to compete for the prestige to win some of the tournaments in the name of the greats or comps that the greats have won before.
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There was a time when those tournaments were just an event with no prestige, ie when they 1st started #fact.
Over time history has been recorded where big well known names/worlds best players have won those events over a period of time and they have become elevated.

Liv events are being played for the very 1st time so of course they are not seen/perceived as important a win BUT an event/tour has to start somewhere to start building that history so who is to say that in 10-15 years Liv London is a big event to win because it was the inaugural Liv event and been won by DJ, Cam Smith, BDC and any other top player who comes across to play Liv in the next decade.
Without the top players the events won't build history so that's why it's crucial they keep recruiting top 25 talent.

You can't criticise Liv for not having history like the PGA Tour.
Your right the Liv Players have given up the chance to play in those historic events but they are helping build the history of some new events and they need quite a bit of time before they can be judged on the success of that.
 
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TheBigDraw said:
There was a time when those tournaments were just an event with no prestige, ie when they 1st started #fact.
Over time history has been recorded where big well known names/worlds best players have won those events over a period of time and they have become elevated.

Liv events are being played for the very 1st time so of course they are not seen/perceived as important a win BUT an event/tour has to start somewhere to start building that history so who is to say that in 10-15 years Liv London is a big event to win because it was the inaugural Liv event and been won by DJ, Cam Smith, BDC and any other top player who comes across to play Liv in the next decade.
Without the top players the events won't build history so that's why it's crucial they keep recruiting top 25 talent.

You can't criticise Liv for not having history like the PGA Tour.
Your right the Liv Players have given up the chance to play in those historic events but they are helping build the history of some new events and they need quite a bit of time before they can be judged on the success of that.
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Maybe the top players lacked the prestige of the tournament? Or maybe they just didn't have the motivation. Either way, it's up to the tournament organizers, I guess.
 
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Jacko_G said:
You need to understand what player's are trying to achieve and it's not co sanctioned events.
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I understand exactly what the LIV players are trying to achieve; having their cake and eating it.

They want to play on both tours so that they get ranking points, or they want LIV events to get ranking points, in which case they couldn’t give two hoots about playing the PGA or European Tour.

Until one or both of those tours rewrite their rules the only way they fulfill the membership obligations of both tours is playing a lot more golf. I know that’s not what they want to do but it’s the only way they play both tours at the moment, assuming the rules remain the same and the Tour they turned their back on allows them to return.
 
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