Scoobiesnax
Assistant Pro
Easiest way to solve this is to just ban the Forum!
LIV Golf
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Deleted member 29109
Guest
Or people that aren’t interested just stay out of it!
Funny how some who haven’t commented much recently have appeared once a mod has got involved.
SteveW86
Head Pro
I think a lot of people read the forum, but dont feel the need to comment on certain threads very often. I read this topic, but dont particularly care much either way about LIV, so dont have much to say on it. The constant bickering back and forth is irritating though.
Politics was banned because people couldnt talk about it without getting personal/ listening and accepting that other people have a different view. I dont think this thread should be treated any differently to politics just because we are on a golf forum. Rather than the constant telling off from Phil, if people cant discuss it properly then it should be banned like politics is.
Politics was banned because people couldnt talk about it without getting personal/ listening and accepting that other people have a different view. I dont think this thread should be treated any differently to politics just because we are on a golf forum. Rather than the constant telling off from Phil, if people cant discuss it properly then it should be banned like politics is.
Springveldt
Well-known member
To be fair, it sometimes seems like 10 vs 1 on the subject so he’s just trying to reply to all the other posts.
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
Is one way of looking at it.
If you are correct, 584 posts out of a total of 1,150 is over 50% of his total posts on this site are in that one thread.
That's pretty dedicated for someone who's not on the LIV payroll...
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
Politics was banned because certain people couldn't discuss it sensibly, so everyone suffered; lots of people managed perfectly well.
Why should the subject under discussion be banned rather than the cause of the problem?
Swango1980
Well-known member
I think I highlighted his contribution before on this thread, buried deep within it. At that time, I don't think he had made any contributions on any other thread (or, at most 1 or 2).Is one way of looking at it.
If you are correct, 584 posts out of a total of 1,150 is over 50% of his total posts on this site are in that one thread.
That's pretty dedicated for someone who's not on the LIV payroll...
So, it appears that this LIV thread was very much his introduction into Golf Monthly, as he cares so passionately about it. Since then, and certainly after I mentioned this initially, it seems he has branched out to comment on some of the other threads out there.
SyR
Challenge Tour Pro
It seems pretty incredible to think LIV would be sending their people to argue with a relatively small group of people on an internet forum.
SteveW86
Head Pro
I know, and I agree.
It would just follow the path that GM have chosen in the past with banning a subject rather than a poster(s).
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Deleted member 29109
Guest
They are not. No way is Mel a LiV bot. He’s just so excited at the exciting new format that he’s taken it upon himself to be their forum spokesperson.
That said, I think it’s pretty clear not all of his posts are written by him, and many are just regurgitating nonsense from LiV bots on Twitter.
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Deleted member 15344
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He is a LIV fan - that’s his choice and certainly not been sent here etc
But a lot of what he has posted is straight from the LIV Bot hymn sheet
BubbaP
Occasional Player of Golf
Coming back to the OWGR points piece - not quoting posts as not planning on being in the "middle".
The age old knockout comps admin comments spring to mind - generally people say don't make exceptions because once you open that door then others expect it also, and some will push the limits.
It is pretty clear that now we have some sight of the OWGR guidelines, that if applied to a number of existing events then those individually will fall short. For each one a decent case can be made for the various specific exceptions and likely the majority are, and have been, okay with that.
I suspect the LIV gang have looked at those, and seen the exceptions door opened.
The comment on majority verses minority is a fair one, but the whole area is not clean cut IMO.
The age old knockout comps admin comments spring to mind - generally people say don't make exceptions because once you open that door then others expect it also, and some will push the limits.
It is pretty clear that now we have some sight of the OWGR guidelines, that if applied to a number of existing events then those individually will fall short. For each one a decent case can be made for the various specific exceptions and likely the majority are, and have been, okay with that.
I suspect the LIV gang have looked at those, and seen the exceptions door opened.
The comment on majority verses minority is a fair one, but the whole area is not clean cut IMO.
Jimaroid
Journeyman Pro
Survivorship bias. Many of us continue to participate but just by reading and rolling our eyes. Doesn’t mean we’re not active in the thread, the view count of this thread goes up continually and that’s a better measure.
LIV is an contemporary, interesting and golf relevant topic that warrants discussion here but there is a huge gulf of difference between talking about it and shilling it. I think many of us previously active posters are simply bored with the latter.
Beezerk
Money List Winner
You could argue that a lot of the anti liv crowd do exactly the same, I've lost count of the amount of Twitter posts by the pro pga posse, most of them inane rubbish.
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Deleted member 15344
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A lot of the LIV stuff seems to be flying by the wire , that imo comes from someone like GN who imo is a novice when running a golf tour
They have used money to get players and venues etc and imo they expected exemptions to be made for them when they couldn’t buy something
They prob looked at some events getting exemptions and just thought well we can get the same without understanding the fine print
It’s why imo they linked up with the Asian Tour - it’s not out of some desire to help the Asian Tour but it’s a link that they can buy to help the players that they have bought to get ranking points. And imo they have done that because the issue is harming their ability to get players and the ones they have got are worried
Swango1980
Well-known member
Agreed. At times I get involved in a discussion in here, but quite often I just sit back and read through comments, without contributing. I even peek in at times to see that at least 10 fresh pages have been created since my last view. I do a quick scan, see that the comments are by primarily the same people and saying the same things they were saying months ago, and hop out again.
I'm guessing there are a lot more people that look in, and never post a thing. Or post a quick comment once in a blue moon.
evemccc
Well-known member
Out of interest, do you think that the PGA Tour wanted to ‘help’ the European Tour?
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Deleted member 15344
Guest
No idea ?
Not thought about it - they have created a stronger alliance between the two which will help the ET - can only guess at their motive , it allows another Avenue for talent to profess through to the PGA
Scoobiesnax
Assistant Pro
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
At any time, the total number of registered members (posters) online is 10% or less of the actual total viewing. Checking before I posted this the "members online" count was 31 members & 431 guests (Yes, I know, but that's how the figures are listed). Any other time I've noticed it the proportion has always been found 10% or less.
