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[Mel Smooth]

What have Mel and BigDraw got in common?

They both use the forum to promote their own youtube channels. It's a clear Liv social media strategy.

The 140 followers suggests it’s not a very good one. ?

 

[Barking_Mad]

But you've put it out there that Pelley is a very bad man! What's he done then that would put him on a par with being implicit in the murder of a journalist?

Murdered two journalists?

 

[Jigger]

Anyone got any views on the gender inequalities of prize money on the men and women’s tour? Now I’m by no means saying a low prize fund is equivalent to the women’s rights abuses in Saudi but both tours have done relatively nothing to level up the playing field between men and women.

All the issues are purely around the tour monopolisation being challenged and the tours feeling threatened.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Stenson has spoken - lots of trying to justify it all and trying to make himself feel good about it but it’s all just a “commercial” decision.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1549807964772597766

 

[Barking_Mad]

I'd like to know what it is these can now buy that they couldn't before they signed for LIV.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Anyone got any views on the gender inequalities of prize money on the men and women’s tour? Now I’m by no means saying a low prize fund is equivalent to the women’s rights abuses in Saudi but both tours have done relatively nothing to level up the playing field between men and women.

All the issues are purely around the tour monopolisation being challenged and the tours feeling threatened.

A lot of the prize money is very much dependent on the level of sponsorship for the events

The LPGA and LET are seperate to the mens Tour and it’s up to those relevant tours to bring the sponsers in. Should the mens Tour subsidise the Ladies ?

All for levelling the prize money if the income is also the same level to ensure it’s all equal

The Ladies at one stage were very vocal about Saudi Arabia about how they treated Women - yet offered a big pile of cash that soon disappeared, they didn’t complain about being told they couldn’t wear shorts or skorts

 

[RRidges]

I know somebody who has met Pelley, amongst many others in the golfing world, and he said Pelley stood out as a very bad man.

That's probably the dumbest statement you've made on this thread - and possibly libelous!
The 'very bad man' looks like something Donald Trump would say!

 

[Backsticks]

Anyone got any views on the gender inequalities of prize money on the men and women’s tour? Now I’m by no means saying a low prize fund is equivalent to the women’s rights abuses in Saudi but both tours have done relatively nothing to level up the playing field between men and women.

All the issues are purely around the tour monopolisation being challenged and the tours feeling threatened.

Yes, I would say its about right, so fine at the moment. Womens tour developping nicely.
They need to stop tricking around with their majors though, and limit themselves to 4.

 

[BrianM]

Anyone got any views on the gender inequalities of prize money on the men and women’s tour? Now I’m by no means saying a low prize fund is equivalent to the women’s rights abuses in Saudi but both tours have done relatively nothing to level up the playing field between men and women.

All the issues are purely around the tour monopolisation being challenged and the tours feeling threatened.

Saudi Aramco sponsor the Womens European tour, the same personnel who bank roll LIV, best not to speak about it ??

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I’m not excusing anything. That interview I’ve posted pre dates his comment at Centurion, so how would he be backtracking?
if you watch it all, you’ll also hear Weir comment on how GN had reached out to Monahan, Pelley, and all the guys running the majors. The only one to respond were Augusta.

Are the majors supposed to respond to Norman ?

Why should they - he is the figure head for a golf entity that potentially they don’t want to have anything to do with - he is “buying” the players , buying a tour , buying fans - maybe that’s not what they want to see.

 

[Jigger]

A lot of the prize money is very much dependent on the level of sponsorship for the events

The LPGA and LET are seperate to the mens Tour and it’s up to those relevant tours to bring the sponsers in. Should the mens Tour subsidise the Ladies ?

All for levelling the prize money if the income is also the same level to ensure it’s all equal

The Ladies at one stage were very vocal about Saudi Arabia about how they treated Women - yet offered a big pile of cash that soon disappeared, they didn’t complain about being told they couldn’t wear shorts or skorts

decent comment but there’s ways of getting male and female tours playing at the same events so that they are not being subsidised. I keep banging on about this but just as they have moved to suitable course for distance increases and courses have been built around that need, why is it so difficult for them to say right, we’re halving the mens field and playing on a course than can accomodate both male and female comps. We’re going to have 70 men and 70 women and a cut at 35 each, alternate male and female tees. We don’t get to see the journeymen at the back of the field anyway and nor are we bothered about them so why not freshen it up?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

decent comment but there’s ways of getting male and female tours playing at the same events so that they are not being subsidised. I keep banging on about this but just as they have moved to suitable course for distance increases and courses have been built around that need, why is it so difficult for them to say right, we’re halving the mens field and playing on a course than can accomodate both male and female comps. We’re going to have 70 men and 70 women and a cut at 35 each, alternate male and female tees. We don’t get to see the journeymen at the back of the field anyway and nor are we bothered about them so why not freshen it up?

I agree it’s a decent idea but that’s 70 players missing out from either tour - what about all those players that have qualifed with a full Tour card ? Why should they miss out ?

But that would still be subsidised in some way because it would still be the mens game bringing in the sponserships

There have been a number of mixed events - Sweden did one , 6’s etc

But the set up within the game is reflective of the dynamics within the game right now

Equality is great but must be equal in all aspects

 

[Imurg]

And .....Jason Kokrak will, apparently, complete the line up......

 

[Deleted member 15344]

And .....Jason Kokrak will, apparently, complete the line up......

So what about all the rumours of Smith , Cantlay , Matsyuma ?‍

In the end two mid level at best US players and a player they have got just to rock the boat and who is on the downward part of his career

 

[Deleted member 3432]

213 pages of the same old ?

??????

 

[PhilTheFragger]

I know somebody who has met Pelley, amongst many others in the golfing world, and he said Pelley stood out as a very bad man.

Stepping in here, where do I start

Defamation is a thing
What you have quoted is a third party opinion dressed up as a fact,

I had a bloke in the back of the cab once and what he said must be gospel

Either quote your sources with examples or stop peddling tittle tattle

 

[Deleted member 1147]

Stepping in here, where do I start

Defamation is a thing
What you have quoted is a third party opinion dressed up as a fact,

I had a bloke in the back of the cab once and what he said must be gospel

Either quote your sources with examples or stop peddling tittle tattle

It’s not like his make believe & trolling is new

 

[PhilTheFragger]

It’s not like his make believe & trolling is new

I know, but everyone is entitled to their opinion, it’s when their opinion must be a fact that problems occur

 

[Mel Smooth]

Stepping in here, where do I start

Defamation is a thing
What you have quoted is a third party opinion dressed up as a fact,

I had a bloke in the back of the cab once and what he said must be gospel

Either quote your sources with examples or stop peddling tittle tattle

Phil, the thread is full of baseless accusations, and you decide to pull me up on something??

I even had a poster accuse me of torturing my own son last week ffs, thankfully an admin spotted it, and gave the guy a ban.

I take it you’re going to apply this level of administration across the board now?

I don’t want to go down the avenue of reporting everything that I’m trying my best to be offended by, but I can, quite easily.

 

[Barking_Mad]

That's probably the dumbest statement you've made on this thread - and possibly libelous!
The 'very bad man' looks like something Donald Trump would say!