LIV Golf

[AussieKB]

In other words, the players themselves are the problem with the PGA tour dominance, and not the tour in of itself.

If you are yank then I can see why they don't travel as there is no need, they have 3 of the 4 majors and until LIV, they had all the money tournaments, maybe have a trip to the UK for the Open take the wife/girlfriend do some tourist things and shopping as a holiday.

If one of the Major's could be moved to be played around the world to help promote/showcase the game that would be great, but there is NO CHANCE that the yanks will let one of them go.

 

[AussieKB]

Good job all the Aussie players stayed home to support the tour down under eah? Oh wait………

Funny thing is that the one person who supported the Aussie tour was Greg.....plus he grew it more than anyone.
Most now live in the US just like European players and are happy with that lifestyle.

 

[Swango1980]

Its already affiliated with Majors and OWGR...

Exactly. So why throw loads of money at LIV, knowing they are about to take over an established tour? Surely they throw all their money at the established tour, rather than splitting it over that and some new golf tour and all the obstacles that go with it.

 

[sweaty sock]

Exactly. So why throw loads of money at LIV, knowing they are about to take over an established tour? Surely they throw all their money at the established tour, rather than splitting it over that and some new golf tour and all the obstacles that go with it.

I'd guess, that its easier to throw money around on your own tour than it is to work around the rules and regs in place on an established one?

 

[GB72]

Exactly. So why throw loads of money at LIV, knowing they are about to take over an established tour? Surely they throw all their money at the established tour, rather than splitting it over that and some new golf tour and all the obstacles that go with it.

It would be interesting to see the reaction from both golfers and the PGA tour alike if LIV had gone down the route of massively bumping up the prize money and appearance fees on the European Tour.

 

[D-S]

Just heard from Bob Bubka on Talksport that Brooks Koepka will be the next one to switch.

 

[PJ87]

Just heard from Bob Bubka on Talksport that Brooks Koepka will be the next one to switch.

They were saying on the Rick shiels podcast that no offence to the top 20 but Liv is getting the personalities in golf. Like apart from JT And rahm personality wise the top 20 is pretty bland .. best golfers ofc

Koepka is a good addition

The next 6 months will be interesting to follow

 

[BubbaP]

I suspect they've all been sounded out and obscene amounts banded, but some have been less willing to engage than others

 

[PJ87]

I suspect they've all been sounded out and obscene amounts banded, but some have been less willing to engage than others

Rory and rahm have both been vocally against it. However both left a guy bit in their statements

They want to play against the best players

At what point does it become that Liv have the better players and forces their hand to join ...I'd hope by then the PGA would have got past it..unsuspended everyone and it is back to normal with 8 events that are bit different on the calendar

 

[Deleted member 15344]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1537069203416571911

Will be a bit a kick for the LiV tour

The two main tours becoming more together

 

[evemccc]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1537069203416571911

Will be a bit a kick for the LiV tour

The two main tours becoming more together

If they do ‘see off’ the LIV tour (and even if they don’t), if the DP World ties itself closer to the PGA Tour, you can be sure that in a couple of years the DP World Tour will assume even lesser authority, prestige, power and status than it has today

 

[BubbaP]

Interesting! Guess the key phrase is 'negotiating'. It's a significant moment for Mr Pelley. Does feel like snippets are coming out suggesting several possible outcomes - perhaps a bit of playing one v the other.

 

[PJ87]

Interesting! Guess the key phrase is 'negotiating'. It's a significant moment for Mr Pelley. Does feel like snippets are coming out suggesting several possible outcomes - perhaps a bit of playing one v the other.

If agreed at board level, it would then need to be cleared by 75% of the PGA Tour membership

Will they get 75% to agree? Many already had head turned and others might want options open

Plus what's in it for them .... Like will they have to play on that tour say 5 events

 

[BubbaP]

If they do ‘see off’ the LIV tour (and even if they don’t), if the DP World ties itself closer to the PGA Tour, you can be sure that in a couple of years the DP World Tour will assume even lesser authority, prestige, power and status than it has today

That is definitely the risk for DP World Tour.
Recent events means probably nothing can surprise any more, but hard to envisage how something with such deep pockets can be 'seen off'. We don't know full details, but indications are some of these players are signing 4 year deals.
The soap continues...

 

[Deleted member 15344]

If they do ‘see off’ the LIV tour (and even if they don’t), if the DP World ties itself closer to the PGA Tour, you can be sure that in a couple of years the DP World Tour will assume even lesser authority, prestige, power and status than it has today

Why will it ?

Due to recent work the work joining more with the PGA Tour has allowed the co sanction of events including the Scottish Open and that’s what they are looking more into - the ET still needs to be there for the progression for European golfers as such and it fills a nice gap there. It will never be as powerful as the PGA tour but working together will certainly enhance it

 

[PJ87]

Why will it ?

Due to recent work the work joining more with the PGA Tour has allowed the co sanction of events including the Scottish Open and that’s what they are looking more into - the ET still needs to be there for the progression for European golfers as such and it fills a nice gap there. It will never be as powerful as the PGA tour but working together will certainly enhance it

There are a lot of lower level dp world pros twiddling their thumbs this summer unhappy with this decision.

They would be teeing up at these events normally but due to co hosting the PGA gets half the field with its stars and now they don't get to play / make their living.

At their level that's money to enable another year competing rather than the ability to pick and choose when they play.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

There are a lot of lower level dp world pros twiddling their thumbs this summer unhappy with this decision.

They would be teeing up at these events normally but due to co hosting the PGA gets half the field with its stars and now they don't get to play / make their living.

At their level that's money to enable another year competing rather than the ability to pick and choose when they play.

So they can’t win then can they ?

An event to get the biggest and best playing in the UK and now it’s all about the lower players ?‍

The money is only that level because of the players playing and the ranking points that will come with it

It’s the sort of event that will showcase the best in the game - are you just opposed to everything ?‍

 

[PJ87]

So they can’t win then can they ?

An event to get the biggest and best playing in the UK and now it’s all about the lower players ?‍

The money is only that level because of the players playing and the ranking points that will come with it

It’s the sort of event that will showcase the best in the game - are you just opposed to everything ?‍

The lower players still need to make a living. The better players play on the PGA and get more money to do so and earn their prizes

All these moves are making it harder to make it.

Then their is the kornferry tour upping the entry fee to 6k

So what if they can't win? It's not all about winning. It's their job to play. Winning is a bonus

Look at finau

How long did he go without a win? But he earned his living

If you stop people coming through ie by upping entry fees and taking away events you could push out future talent from making it.

 

[Barking_Mad]

Rahm spoke very well.

Many LIVERS have said "it's a business decision" or "this is my job/business". It's clear they see the game somewhat differently. They're entitled to do so but they're clearly not the same kids who presumably fell in love with the *game* and and not the business/money. To me that's pretty sad, especially as many of them are free to enjoy playing without worrying about the financial aspect.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

The lower players still need to make a living. The better players play on the PGA and get more money to do so and earn their prizes

All these moves are making it harder to make it.

Then their is the kornferry tour upping the entry fee to 6k

So what if they can't win? It's not all about winning. It's their job to play. Winning is a bonus

Look at finau

How long did he go without a win? But he earned his living

If you stop people coming through ie by upping entry fees and taking away events you could push out future talent from making it.

The people who will miss out will be the players will the lowest exemptions - the ones who will play the smaller comps , that’s been the same way for years , the same players miss out at the PGA or even past Scottish Opens . And those missing out then go on and play on the Challenge Tour for a competition- that’s nothing new and been happening for years.

If they want to play in the bigger events and earn the big money and ranking points then they need to perform when they get the chance which will give them entry into these events

Not sure why you started going on about wins ?‍♂

There is always the ability for the players to progress through the tours and the chance is there for anyone to grab providing the prove it on the other he course

Enhancing the Scottish Open isn’t going to harm the young talent - if anything it should give them something to aim towards