How much is Greg making ? Or, being already as rich as Croesus, he is doing it pro bono, because he just wants to spread the word of golf and give something back to the game ?
LIV Golf
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4LEX
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No idea. The Breakfast Balls or the Hosel Rocketz? At least Ian Poulter made the weekend for a change though, excellent golf to finish at +5.
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
It's rare for an event to be that exciting though. Look at the masters that was over day one. Yesterday was s proper battle
The PGA can't hope that every week that will happen
RRidges
Active member
Canadian Open was a particularly good contest.
LIV hardly got a mention in my area, this side of the pond, except from Rory doing his 1-up on titles won. It'll probably feature more for the events un US though.
TV access could well be important for ongoing promotion, though You-Tube seemed to work fine for actual delivery. I suspect there'll be channels over here that would be interested in hosting the broadcasting for the next 3 events.
London was pretty much a prototype/learning exercise imo. But a success all the same - especially for Charl!
LIV hardly got a mention in my area, this side of the pond, except from Rory doing his 1-up on titles won. It'll probably feature more for the events un US though.
TV access could well be important for ongoing promotion, though You-Tube seemed to work fine for actual delivery. I suspect there'll be channels over here that would be interested in hosting the broadcasting for the next 3 events.
London was pretty much a prototype/learning exercise imo. But a success all the same - especially for Charl!
sunshine
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I think we’ve established that two people care deeply about the teams, and they both happen to post on this forum. Although no idea how genuine they are, is it enough for a fan club?
AussieKB
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It became a feeder tour because all the good players left for the MONEY....oh no must blame the Saudi's Greg Norman and maybe through in Donald Trump.
Barking_Mad
Well-known member
So because something disruptive happened before, it shouldn't matter it's happening again?
That said it wouldn't necessarily surprise me to see the European Tour not ban anyone. They're in a tight spot with their PGA Tour relationship, but allowing banned PGA Tour players to play their events would be a massive plus. Hence the silence...
AussieKB
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Can see the PGA putting pressure on the DP Tour to ban them, and I think the DP Tour will fold,
having LIV players in their field could only enhance them, will wait and see.
ColchesterFC
Journeyman Pro
I think it will depend on the wording of the contracts that players have signed with the DP tour. I read somewhere that for the PGA tour players have to agree not to play on a competing tour which I assume is why the PGA think that the bans can't be legally challenged. If the DP tour don't have the same or similar then I don't think they'll be able to ban players.
Would not banning players open them up to a legal challenge from players that don't qualify due to LIV tour players taking their places? If you were due to play in a tournament and had met the qualifying conditions you'd be pretty miffed to be told that a LIV tour player was taking your place.
sunshine
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Women are now allowed to drive and also play golf in Saudi, as long as they have permission from their husband or father. I’ve heard many carry a written permission slip which they can show if they’re pulled over. This is not a joke, that’s the society that LIV is promoting.
sunshine
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Wow. So now you’ve moved up a gear and you’re supporting oppression of women.
Swango1980
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Are they promoting this? I don't think, if LIV is successful, people in the UK will start to believe that women should only be able to drive if they have permission from the man in their lives. Do you think this is the purpose of LIV?
If anybodies cultural and political values are likely to change as a result of Saudi Arabia doing business with the west, I suspect it is Saudi Arabia that are likely to become more liberal. That is my thought anyway. But, it won't happen tomorrow. It won't happen next yearz even if McIlroy and all join LIV. It would be a gradual change that will probably happen beyond our lifetime.
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
I have to admit, I have no idea what's 'in it' for Saudi Arabia by financing LIV golf
I mean what actually do they have to gain by doing it?
I mean what actually do they have to gain by doing it?
sunshine
Well-known member
Apart from the concert, the fan experience at LIV was exactly the same as any other tour event. I’m not knocking it, just saying that every tournament I’ve been to has had a golf simulator, putting games, bars, food etc. I think tournament golf is a great day out and my kids love it.
PJ87
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Saudis are catching onto what the rest of that part of the world has known for a few years .. oil profits will eventually fall, not short term but long term
Meaning they need another form of revenue for their country
Saudi is a very rich country with low poverty but high unemployment, they are trying to attract buisnesses in hubs they are building
They can litterally write off this golf money so long as it builds a revenue long term for the country
r0wly86
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r0wly86
Head Pro
Can you see the difference between going somewhere for more money, and going somewhere that is hosted by a repressive regime with an appalling human rights records for more money
SteveW86
Head Pro
Not sure this has been mentioned,but will the breakaway players (those banned from the PGA tour) have a knock on effect for the Netflix show they were filming. It wouldnt surprise me if the PGA didnt want any of those players (I think Poulter was definitely being filmed at some point) on the show. Though I am not sure if it was PGA tour exclusive.
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
Same as when PGA went to China and dp went to Saudi or dp who own p&o sacked everyone
Those in glass houses
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Why will the DP Tour fold ?
There was only about 7/8 players from the DP in the event ?
