BiMGuy
LIV Bot, (But Not As Big As Mel) ?
That article sounds like they were playing on a goat track. I’m sure most of us are playing on decent courses, if not quite Tour standard.
Over one round anything could happen.
Jon Rahm +13 HI
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That article sounds like they were playing on a goat track. I’m sure most of us are playing on decent courses, if not quite Tour standard.
Over one round anything could happen.
Ruggy
New member
Rick Shiels did a video with a pro and he had birdie looks nearly every hole...it was a pretty good example of the gap!!!
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Break him???
He'd top himself by the 4th or die laughing by the 6th...?
HeftyHacker
Well-known member
Given our Assistant Pro shot a 58 last year around our short (5800yards) and fairly easy par 69 course (although he is admittedly a very good player), I dread to think what a top level tour pro would do to the place.
By my calculations, on a baked summer course he'd be able to drive 8 or 9 of the par 4's (under 350 yards) and the par 5s would be driver, wedge for him.
But he'd be giving me 28 shots and at my best i've shot a 75, so he'd need to be shooting in the 40's haha. But in reality the occasion would get to me and he'd probably just need to break par.
I watched Jack Senior play a few holes at our place and he was toying with it, driving the 1st and 3rd hitting an iron onto the green on the 4th before we pulled ahead of his group.
By my calculations, on a baked summer course he'd be able to drive 8 or 9 of the par 4's (under 350 yards) and the par 5s would be driver, wedge for him.
But he'd be giving me 28 shots and at my best i've shot a 75, so he'd need to be shooting in the 40's haha. But in reality the occasion would get to me and he'd probably just need to break par.
I watched Jack Senior play a few holes at our place and he was toying with it, driving the 1st and 3rd hitting an iron onto the green on the 4th before we pulled ahead of his group.
Mel Smooth
Hacker
I’d take him on, Jon off the back tees, me off the reds, and my full handicap.
I’d still lose. ?
I’d still lose. ?
Beezerk
Money List Winner
SILH would have a chance, he’d be trying to pull off dodgy rulings on every hole ?
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Are you saying SILH is really Phil Mickelson in disguise ? ?
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
More Bubba Watson isnt he..................
cliveb
Head Pro
Grims Dyke may be short, but it's not a pushover. Nobody has ever taken it apart.
I think the course record is something like 62, which is only 7 under par.
The yearly pro-am routinely sees very few of the pros breaking par.
A comment from one of them some years back was "quite a few drivable par4's, but you end up 3-putting anyway").
Admittedly Rahm is on a whole other level, but unless he takes it seriously, he could come a cropper.
Callum Shenkwin played there in a charity event a few years back. The pro predicted he sould score about 58. He shot 76 (although almost certainly not taking things seriously).
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
Many tour Pros have just been to my home course and one of them shot a new course record 62 on day one (although he couldn’t get near it again for the next three days)
And JR is another level up on the guys that played here… so in a match (which is what the OP posed) he’d destroy me
I’ve never even played from the Pro/rearmost tees!
And JR is another level up on the guys that played here… so in a match (which is what the OP posed) he’d destroy me
I’ve never even played from the Pro/rearmost tees!
need_my_wedge
Has Now Found His Wedgie
He's done a few against tour pro's too. Blown a 10 shot lead pretty much every time
Rickie Fowler
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
Rick clearly not as good as a scratch golfer. You would fancy the pro every day of the week.
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
The biggest area that most pros would struggle with is pace of the greens on the average members course compared with ones on any tours.
Mind the course record at our place is held by an ex touring pro (Lee James from memory) shot during a County event after he had got his amateur status back and he was fairly lowly pro biggest win was the amateur matchplay with 5 wins on the Challenge tour.
Mind the course record at our place is held by an ex touring pro (Lee James from memory) shot during a County event after he had got his amateur status back and he was fairly lowly pro biggest win was the amateur matchplay with 5 wins on the Challenge tour.
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Orikoru
Tour Winner
All fair enough of course. We see the top pros ripping it up on TV and expect miracles, but our courses would definitely be a very different test to what they're used to. I'd still expect Rahmbo to break 60 though.
Coincidentally, once last year I was in the pro shop with the guy who has the course record, apparently. I never caught his name, just overheard a conversation with him asking if he still had the course record and the answer being yes. The guy said he barely plays these days, and even had to buy a polo shirt for his round as he didn't own one.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Agree - I've watched most of his Break 75s and I'd say he's closer to 5 handicap than scratch.
Jigger
Club Champion
If I ever won the lottery mega jackpots I’ve often thought I’d may a tour player £1m to have a round with me at my course, just to see ho they’d tear it up.
The YouTuber, Rick Shiels, who does a regular challenge to break 75 has done some pro matchplays against the likes of Faldo, fleetwood, Westwood and Fowler. Even giving them 10 shots has not helped him win.
In the grand scheme of things he’s been over par and they have scored a handful of birdies to sneak past him. If you played your best golf which would be a few under handicap, I couldn’t see Rahm making 13+ shots up on any course. I mean, if a 7 handicapper shot a 3 over 75, that would mean Rahm would need 18 birdies to win.
The YouTuber, Rick Shiels, who does a regular challenge to break 75 has done some pro matchplays against the likes of Faldo, fleetwood, Westwood and Fowler. Even giving them 10 shots has not helped him win.
In the grand scheme of things he’s been over par and they have scored a handful of birdies to sneak past him. If you played your best golf which would be a few under handicap, I couldn’t see Rahm making 13+ shots up on any course. I mean, if a 7 handicapper shot a 3 over 75, that would mean Rahm would need 18 birdies to win.
r0wly86
Head Pro
given that they would have eagle shouts on every par 5 and probably a few par 4s, not beyond the realms of reality
HeftyHacker
Well-known member
I watch most of these as well and I think he has improved a bit more recently based on his US ones, you've got to remember the course ratings at those courses will probably be 3 or 4 over the par. The course rating at the medallist from the back tees that he played Fowler off is 77.9 for example.
But at times this year he's resembled an 18 handicapper!
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
This week I might have a chance.
Very wet and temp greens at 2* might not suit him.
But in summer off the tips I very much dought it.
Would like to think nobody could give me a shot a hole
Very wet and temp greens at 2* might not suit him.
But in summer off the tips I very much dought it.
Would like to think nobody could give me a shot a hole
JonnyGutteridge
Newbie
I really like his videos but Rick is a rather strange golfer. He can hit the ball a long way but apart from that, his game is actually pretty poor considering how much golf he must get to play, the players he gets to play with, the fact that golf is his literal job, access to tips, coaching etc.
His putting and chipping is horrifying and his course management is non-existent. It’s rare to see him hit a fairway, stiff the approach and roll in the putt - which most <5 handicappers will do at least a couple of times a round.
He always seems to be scrambling for par and grinding for majority of the round.
