Jacket and Tie

[Deleted Member 1156]

In the last 12 months I have played at RSG, St Georges Hill, the Berkshires, West Hill, Worplesdon, Hankley and Walton Heath, all required a change into jacket and tie for the dining room. No big deal IMHO.

 

[tugglesf239]

clothes don't guarantee decency, but they are capable of hiding idiots.

What an excellent turn of phrase. I like that

 

[richart]

Doesn't worry me at all. If I know beforehand a suit and tie goes into the car, if I am not sure, a suit and tie goes into the car, it's really not a problem. Would I want to do it every time, after I played golf, probably not, but if the club was great and it was a requirement, I see it as a small price to pay.

Spot on.:thup:

 

[patricks148]

this tread cracks me up, not sure what some of you would do playing some of matches i play in, which require you to wear black tie for the dinner after:rofl:

and we don't take or Jackets off to eat either...lol

 

[moogie]

I think this is very true. I'm pleased I live in the north as I hate wearing a tie :thup:. I have yet to play a club that insists on J & T and yes I have played at some nice clubs.

W

The only club we have in the north east that still has these "antiquated" rules
Is "The" Northumberland golf club
Though I believe they have 3 options now ( recently changed )
Jacket & tie
Jacket & shirt
Shirt & tie

Have yet to play there
But am doing so in August, whilst my club has a county game on, so have course courtesy
Funnily enough, we're entitled to play their course, but that doesn't entitle us to use the clubhouse facilities afterwards....!!!


On another note
The most expensive course to play or join in the north east is Close House, where you could wear jeans and trainers, or even shorts and flip flops to eat afterwards.......

 

[Deleted member 16999]

this tread cracks me up, not sure what some of you would do playing some of matches i play in, which require you to wear black tie for the dinner after:rofl:

and we don't take or Jackets off to eat either...lol

Never played anywhere requiring black tie afterwards, but totally agree with your sentiments. :thup:

 

[Deleted member 23270]

On another note
The most expensive course to play or join in the north east is Close House, where you could wear jeans and trainers, or even shorts and flip flops to eat afterwards.......

Probably because it is a proprietary course and all the owner is interested in is his profit. Anything goes as long as punters are spending money :thup:

 

[Lord Tyrion]

W

The only club we have in the north east that still has these "antiquated" rules
Is "The" Northumberland golf club
Though I believe they have 3 options now ( recently changed )
Jacket & tie
Jacket & shirt
Shirt & tie

Have yet to play there
But am doing so in August, whilst my club has a county game on, so have course courtesy
Funnily enough, we're entitled to play their course, but that doesn't entitle us to use the clubhouse facilities afterwards....!!!


On another note
The most expensive course to play or join in the north east is Close House, where you could wear jeans and trainers, or even shorts and flip flops to eat afterwards.......

Moogie, that was the only club I had in my head for that requirement so I am pleased you confirmed that. I haven't played there either but my BiL has on corporate days. Supposed to be nice. Not exceptional but nice. Hope you enjoy it, I'll ask you about it at the meet in September.

I was playing at Close House last Sunday, won a 4 ball at a trade show by dropping a business card in a jar :thup:. I was having a coffee in the clubhouse beforehand and a big bloke walked in with his wife and kid, they must have been staying in the accommodation. The bloke was wearing a muscleman vest, shorts and flip flops as you suggested. The man behind the bar did not blink and was as courteous as he would have been to anyone, everyone is a sir or madam there. There was another bloke sat there in his golf cap, indoors, in the bar!!!!!!!! I did have a little chuckle to myself. Anyone who has been to Close House will confirm it is anything but low grade, they show how to be relaxed and classy at the same time, although the bacon butties are a rip off :angry:.

 

[Deleted member 23270]

I don't 'want' to wear a jacket and tie but have no issue at all if that is what the club rules dictate. And in most cases it is only to eat in the dining room so members are perfectly OK to have a pint and sandwiches/chips in the bar in golf clothes if they want to.

As for these types of clubs dying out and being forced to change well that is utter nonsense. I know the manager at St Georges Hill, they have a waiting list as long as your arm. These types of club can still pick and choose who they let in.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Probably because it is a proprietary course and all the owner is interested in is his profit. Anything goes as long as punters are spending money :thup:

Yup, and they keep coming back for more so he must be doing something right. I think he has the balance right, not that I can afford to play there often.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Moogie, that was the only club I had in my head for that requirement so I am pleased you confirmed that. I haven't played there either but my BiL has on corporate days. Supposed to be nice. Not exceptional but nice. Hope you enjoy it, I'll ask you about it at the meet in September.

I was playing at Close House last Sunday, won a 4 ball at a trade show by dropping a business card in a jar :thup:. I was having a coffee in the clubhouse beforehand and a big bloke walked in with his wife and kid, they must have been staying in the accommodation. The bloke was wearing a muscleman vest, shorts and flip flops as you suggested. The man behind the bar did not blink and was as courteous as he would have been to anyone, everyone is a sir or madam there. There was another bloke sat there in his golf cap, indoors, in the bar!!!!!!!! I did have a little chuckle to myself. Anyone who has been to Close House will confirm it is anything but low grade, they show how to be relaxed and classy at the same time, although the bacon butties are a rip off :angry:.

Was the roof leaking?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I rather like wearing a jacket and tie for a post match meal. I feel it shows respect for the hosting club and for each other.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Was the roof leaking?

No, hot day. I was in my shorts as well, tailored golf ones obviously. To be fair the bloke looked out of place amongst a sea of GG polo shirts, the default top at CH, but it had no impact on anyone else or the ambience of the place. I can report that the foundations of the club are still in place.

Interesting to see what people deem respect. To some a J & T is respectful, to others it is old fashioned and out dated. My grandad, worked in a factory all his life, lived in a terraced house in Liverpool, no airs and graces but would never go to the pub without a jacket and tie on. His era viewed it that way. Times change for some, not for others.

The real answer to this is that for those who like to dress up, who deem it respectful etc can wear their jackets, put on their ties. Feel free to make that part of the day. For those that don't, we can dress in normal golf clothing or equally relaxed dress, trousers and shirt. The fact is needs to be a rule suggests people in the main would not wear it unless forced.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

No, hot day. I was in my shorts as well, tailored golf ones obviously. To be fair the bloke looked out of place amongst a sea of GG polo shirts, the default top at CH, but it had no impact on anyone else or the ambience of the place. I can report that the foundations of the club are still in place.

Interesting to see what people deem respect. To some a J & T is respectful, to others it is old fashioned and out dated. My grandad, worked in a factory all his life, lived in a terraced house in Liverpool, no airs and graces but would never go to the pub without a jacket and tie on. His era viewed it that way. Times change for some, not for others.

The real answer to this is that for those who like to dress up, who deem it respectful etc can wear their jackets, put on their ties. Feel free to make that part of the day. For those that don't, we can dress in normal golf clothing or equally relaxed dress, trousers and shirt. The fact is needs to be a rule suggests people in the main would not wear it unless forced.

Nope, still don't get the wearing a hat indoors thing though

 

[moogie]

Probably because it is a proprietary course and all the owner is interested in is his profit. Anything goes as long as punters are spending money :thup:

Or
The owner is a very very wealthy and successful businessman
Has done his homework and knew exactly what his audience wanted
He wanted everybody to feel comfortable and at ease

I've no experience at any of these private members clubs referred to on here by our southern counterparts
But the only other really expensive golfing complex I've played at is Archerfield Links
The best set up I've been to
Everybody treat the same way, and very relaxed in all ways
No strict dress codes , nobody feeling awkward
This is golf as its meant to be ( IMHO )

 

[Deleted member 23270]

No, hot day. I was in my shorts as well, tailored golf ones obviously. To be fair the bloke looked out of place amongst a sea of GG polo shirts, the default top at CH, but it had no impact on anyone else or the ambience of the place. I can report that the foundations of the club are still in place.

Interesting to see what people deem respect. To some a J & T is respectful, to others it is old fashioned and out dated. My grandad, worked in a factory all his life, lived in a terraced house in Liverpool, no airs and graces but would never go to the pub without a jacket and tie on. His era viewed it that way. Times change for some, not for others.

The real answer to this is that for those who like to dress up, who deem it respectful etc can wear their jackets, put on their ties. Feel free to make that part of the day. For those that don't, we can dress in normal golf clothing or equally relaxed dress, trousers and shirt. The fact is needs to be a rule suggests people in the main would not wear it unless forced.

That is a matter of opinion.

 

[Deleted member 23270]

Or
The owner is a very very wealthy and successful businessman
Has done his homework and knew exactly what his audience wanted
He wanted everybody to feel comfortable and at ease

I've no experience at any of these private members clubs referred to on here by our southern counterparts
But the only other really expensive golfing complex I've played at is Archerfield Links
The best set up I've been to
Everybody treat the same way, and very relaxed in all ways
No strict dress codes , nobody feeling awkward
This is golf as its meant to be ( IMHO )

If wearing top hat and tails would generate more profit for him then I'm sure he would change the dress code to that.

For people like him it is not about golf or tradition or anything else it is purely about making money. The new owner of Wentworth is a classic example!

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Nope, still don't get the wearing a hat indoors thing though

I thought you meant the vest top man. Me either to be honest but lots of young uns do it, it is fashionable apparently. We have a young lad at work who is rarely seen without his cap on. Doesn't bother me

That is a matter of opinion.

Absolutely but I was there and can report back that the exclusive and expensive feel of the place felt very much in tact. It certainly did when I had to pay for my 2 coffees and bacon rolls, ouch

Or
The owner is a very very wealthy and successful businessman
Has done his homework and knew exactly what his audience wanted
He wanted everybody to feel comfortable and at ease

I've no experience at any of these private members clubs referred to on here by our southern counterparts
But the only other really expensive golfing complex I've played at is Archerfield Links
The best set up I've been to
Everybody treat the same way, and very relaxed in all ways
No strict dress codes , nobody feeling awkward
This is golf as its meant to be ( IMHO )

Agree with this :thup:

 

[Hacker Khan]

I've eaten in Michelin starred restaurants without having to wear jackets and ties so find it a bit funny golf clubs giving themselves a lot of side by insisting on it. Of course they can do what they want to, but feel it is just to cater to an ever dwindling number of people who think that doing so is upholding some sort of sacred traditions.

Again if you like that kind of thing then knock yourselves out, but it will possibly just end up being as relevant to most of society as the funny handshake brigade.

 

[moogie]

If wearing top hat and tails would generate more profit for him then I'm sure he would change the dress code to that.

For people like him it is not about golf or tradition or anything else it is purely about making money. The new owner of Wentworth is a classic example!

Sorry
I do apologise
I didn't realise you were a good friend of Mr Wylie, knew him intimately, and what his hopes and dreams and business plans for close house were.....