Is this the answer for slow play?

[upsidedown]

even without getting into a debate about 'normal' I would tactfully suggest that this is ridiculous.

however I agree the underlying principle that slow play generally reflects the faffing around elements.

The best article that I have seen in relation to slow play is this one:-

http://www.popeofslope.com/paceofplay/index.html

It is a system that works regardless of if you are the first out or last. The slow players are easy to spot and re-educate.

Good article , cheers

 

[SocketRocket]

IMO the only way to prevent slow play is through a course marshall. It wont happen though.

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

A normal walking pace is 4mph. Last time I looked I did not see any 4 mile long golf courses. What is ridiculous about that?

Can I strongly suggest that all forumers read Simon S's add on... Pope of slope.
There are so many good points in this....... eg 10 minute tee times, do not play off first until players in front are about 400 yards away makes a huge difference to the pace of play for the course.

I have always been taught that average walking pace was 3mph, but people now consider 3kmh for long walks a bit more accurate, clearly people are slowing down! Probably with a golf bag on your back, 3 kpm is quite accurate.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I have always been taught that average walking pace was 3mph, but people now consider 3kmh for long walks a bit more accurate, clearly people are slowing down! Probably with a golf bag on your back, 3 kpm is quite accurate.

One of my longer dog walks is just over 9 miles. If I don't stop for a blether I generally do that in less than 2.5 hours.
I go at a decent pace but I don't think I am a desperately fast walker.

In the 1990's I did the Neolithic Marathon [Avebury to Stonehenge] a couple of times in about 6 hours.

According to wiki I am 'brisk'.
Another site says that 2.8 kph is average for an elderly man.

 

[upsidedown]

even without getting into a debate about 'normal' I would tactfully suggest that this is ridiculous.

however I agree the underlying principle that slow play generally reflects the faffing around elements.

One of my longer dog walks is just over 9 miles. If I don't stop for a blether I generally do that in less than 2.5 hours.
I go at a decent pace but I don't think I am a desperately fast walker.

In the 1990's I did the Neolithic Marathon [Avebury to Stonehenge] a couple of times in about 6 hours.

According to wiki I am 'brisk'.
Another site says that 2.8 kph is average for an elderly man.

In my younger days kept a good 5K/hr on my hill walks

From British Heart Foundation

For a person with excellent fitness, a moderate walking pace or speed is:

15 minutes per mile (4 miles per hour)
9 minutes per kilometre (6.4 kilometres per hour)
A fast walking pace or speed is:

12 minutes per mile (5 miles per hour)
7.5 minutes per kilometre (8 kilometres per hour)
An average walking pace on country and forestry footpaths is:

20 minutes per mile (3 miles per hour)
12 minutes per kilometre (5 kilometres per hour)
Note: All figures given are approximate.

 

[richart]

A charter for catastrophe, mayhem and disaster

That sums up my game very nicely.

 

[Slab]

The best article that I have seen in relation to slow play is this one:-

http://www.popeofslope.com/paceofplay/index.html

It is a system that works regardless of if you are the first out or last. The slow players are easy to spot and re-educate.

Some sensible words in there especially if you look at the other pace links (despite sometimes conflicting)

Does pose the question of whats the point in <<<insert player actions to achieve a good pace>>> if the single biggest time gain is to be had by the club adjusting the spacing from 7 minutes to 10, and this isn't done!

i.e does it really matter where I leave my bag when putting if the club is just going to force groups off the first tee as soon as the group in front are out of range?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Players have got to just become self-aware - of their own pace and of their group. And just be honest with each other. "We are slow and holding the group behind up - either we stop holding them up or we let them through on next tee" (btw 'speeding up' is not the same as 'not being slow')

That IMO is the only way. Today's perception seems to be that 4 hrs is OK for a 3 ball. It's not. It's completely out of order. So rather than moan about slow play we've each just got to grow some balls and do something about it. Chivving your group just must become the norm. So if and when I realise our group is slow (and that it might be me causing it) I should expect someone else in the group to tell us we are slow and so not get upset about it when told - if not then I should do the telling.