Is this the answer for slow play?

[BTatHome]

But does it actually help slow play. If the "slow group" just keeps letting people through it will take them 6 hours to get around (and they would probably only have been slow on the first group getting through .... but letting them through just negates the possible penalty, so nothing really gained (or penalised for)

 

[Old Skier]

As with most things to do with slow play, hard to police IMHO.

 

[Robobum]

But the lead group haven't lost a hole to anyone

Exactly. Not workable imo

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Amount of people you see stood together as they move down the fairway is ridiculous

Ah - that'll be the 'we must stay behind the player about to play and not be ahead of him' misconception

 

[bladeplayer]

Ah - that'll be the 'we must stay behind the player about to play and not be ahead of him' misconception

so where should you be standing when .....................................................

Joking only joking

 

[TheJezster]

I've got to say, everyone moans about slow play, but for once someone has come up with a solution! Rather than no that wont work, how about coming up with a suggestion that WILL?

I think they have thought about it and come up with a solution, so lets see if it works. If it doesnt, perhaps another solution can be found. At least theyre TRYING to do something about it rather than just moaning...

good for them I say.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

so where should you be standing when .....................................................

Joking only joking

Well I assume that everyone knows where they should stand when ... noooo

 

[Deleted member 15344]

We are posting this to all members and on each card for the medals

Keeping Medal rounds moving

....some start of season tips:




a.. Taking 60 seconds to be ready as the player with the honour on any tee adds up to nearly 20 minutes lost time over 18 holes. Be organised, and get on with the shot, then mark your card whilst others play after you.
b.. Be prepared for any shot before you get to it, think as you walk between shots about club selection and visualise your shot.
c.. Take your bag/trolley close to the ball at any time - eliminate needless walking to and fro.
d.. Leave your trolley at the exit of a green, near to the next tee.
e.. Take whatever clubs you need (eg: putter + wedge) to complete the hole.
f.. Mark your card on the next tee, not on, or as you leave, the green.
g.. Be ready to play your shot immediately at any point in the round when it is your turn.
h.. Walk smartly between shots and be thinking about what should happen next as you do so.
i.. 1st person to hole out, picks up the flag, ready to exit the hole quickly.
j.. Be willing to rake bunkers for others who may be having a torrid time around the green!
k.. Aim to keep up with the group in front - not ahead of the group behind.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I've got to say, everyone moans about slow play, but for once someone has come up with a solution! Rather than no that wont work, how about coming up with a suggestion that WILL?

I think they have thought about it and come up with a solution, so lets see if it works. If it doesnt, perhaps another solution can be found. At least theyre TRYING to do something about it rather than just moaning...

good for them I say.

It's not really a solution to slow play though - it's a way of attempting to recognise it and penalising it - which is fine as far as it goes but isn't the answer. The answer is that we all just get a bleedin' move on and stop faffing about - so stop all the hanging around discussing stuff after playing our shots rather than just getting on with it. Groups just have to be self-aware when they are slow, and be open and honest with each other about needing to speed things up - and really chivvy along any playing too slowly.

When next playing in a slow group and you recognise your group is playing slowly and holding things up and your chivvying hasn't worked - don't judge the situation on whether at that moment the group behind is standing waiting for you - recognise that your group is slow and simply say to your playing companions - look guys - we are definitely playing slower than the group behind so I think we let them play through us on next tee. We who hate slow play have to be honest and brave in the face of our fellows.

 

[Andy808]

SNIPERS!
One on each hole and when a player takes more than 3 practice swings, flaffs about with gloves or isn't ready to play then they get taken down.

In all seriousness we have been playing "ready golf" in the group that I play in and it's going really well. We only do it when it's safe to and not on the greens but it can save around 45 minutes a round on our regular 3 ball.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

I like the concept although could be tricky to enforce fairly. Good to see a club/society trying to do something about the scourge of modern golf.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I like the concept although could be tricky to enforce fairly. Good to see a club/society trying to do something about the scourge of modern golf.

With you there DFS.

Golfers are always looking for Sam Wanelse or Anne Other to sort out slow play problems when they should take on individual responsibility.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Self-awareness and honesty - that is all it would take. We need to be aware when we as individuals are playing slow or having a tough time and if PPs don't mind - we take a bit more time - and aware of our group speed. But we then also need to be honest about and to ourselves and also to our group if we are slow. Just say it 'we are slow - let's just let the following group through' Group then decides whether to do that or speed up.

But until we as individuals become more self-aware of, and honest about, our pace of play things aren't going to improve. And as individuals we must accept responsibility for the pace of our group - as we are part of that group. We need to dump the 'its his fault we are slow' attitude. We are all to blame for the slow play of a group if we do nothing about it.

 

[pogle]

It's not really a solution to slow play though - it's a way of attempting to recognise it and penalising it - which is fine as far as it goes but isn't the answer. The answer is that we all just get a bleedin' move on and stop faffing about - so stop all the hanging around discussing stuff after playing our shots rather than just getting on with it. Groups just have to be self-aware when they are slow, and be open and honest with each other about needing to speed things up - and really chivvy along any playing too slowly.

When next playing in a slow group and you recognise your group is playing slowly and holding things up and your chivvying hasn't worked - don't judge the situation on whether at that moment the group behind is standing waiting for you - recognise that your group is slow and simply say to your playing companions - look guys - we are definitely playing slower than the group behind so I think we let them play through us on next tee. We who hate slow play have to be honest and brave in the face of our fellows.

This. All the put your glove on early, think about your shot, mark your card after playing the tee shot is all well and good, but ultimately people just need to stop thinking of golf as a social event with a bit of golf attached, and think of it more as a game where you have the opportunity to chat BETWEEN shots, not when you should be playing them.

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

This. All the put your glove on early, think about your shot, mark your card after playing the tee shot is all well and good, but ultimately people just need to stop thinking of golf as a social event with a bit of golf attached, and think of it more as a game where you have the opportunity to chat BETWEEN shots, not when you should be playing them.

I fully concur. Played with an experienced player in a medal the other week, been playing the game years, but I'd never met him before.

He loved telling stories. There was one point he was stood on the tee, when it was his turn, telling a story for about 5 minutes. I'm naturally a quick player, and this really annoyed me, but I can never be bothered to cause a fuss, I was playing badly anyway, so enjoyed having another excuse!

Luckily we were the last group out, and in horrendous weather, so noone behind us, but it did make me wonder if he would be like that normally!

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Bottom line for slow play is that folk waddle now instead of enjoying a normal paced walk.
Without the golf you should be able to walk around a normal 18 hole golf course in one hour.
Allow another 90 minutes for playing your 70 to 90 shots.
That's two and a half hours, everything else if just faffing around.

 

[SimonS]

The best article that I have seen in relation to slow play is this one:-

http://www.popeofslope.com/paceofplay/index.html

It is a system that works regardless of if you are the first out or last. The slow players are easy to spot and re-educate.

 

[duncan mackie]

Without the golf you should be able to walk around a normal 18 hole golf course in one hour.

even without getting into a debate about 'normal' I would tactfully suggest that this is ridiculous.

however I agree the underlying principle that slow play generally reflects the faffing around elements.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Bottom line for slow play is that folk waddle now instead of enjoying a normal paced walk.

This...I get frustrated just watching some folk wander almost aimlessly up the fairway - and these folks aren't even in my own group. I just can't walk as slow as some of these guys do. I blame today golf waggons. When you have to carry you get from A to B as quick as possible so you can put your bag down. These days folks just stroll along behind their electric chariot.

And chatting on the tee when it is your turn to play and the way is clear - now that is annoying, I do often offenders to get on with it - with a smile.

ps - only kidding about the golf waggons

 

[Doon frae Troon]

even without getting into a debate about 'normal' I would tactfully suggest that this is ridiculous.

however I agree the underlying principle that slow play generally reflects the faffing around elements.

A normal walking pace is 4mph. Last time I looked I did not see any 4 mile long golf courses. What is ridiculous about that?

Can I strongly suggest that all forumers read Simon S's add on... Pope of slope.
There are so many good points in this....... eg 10 minute tee times, do not play off first until players in front are about 400 yards away makes a huge difference to the pace of play for the course.