Region3
Ryder Cup Winner
Or stolen from Clint Eastwood.....
Man's gotta know his limitations.
Man's gotta know his limitations.
How to go low?
- Thread starter la_lucha
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the smiling assassin
Challenge Tour Pro
Only if you ignore the final part of the last sentence!
All of my low rounds involve next to no chipping, just a lot of GIRs and good putts with the occasional save.
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
I would love to see this cat 1 poor chipping. Are you telling me you fat / thin chips all the time or just not as good as you should be.
the smiling assassin
Challenge Tour Pro
Yes, I fat and thin and duff chips all the time. I am genuinely worse at chipping than the vast majority of my PPs. Thankfully I am a fairly exceptional putter on my day and the rest of my game is very solid. I find I can manage as I only really need to chip a couple of times a round. I've often thought if my approach play got worse, my chipping might improve through greater exposure. When I was off high single figures I was much more competent at chipping. Now I'm a duffer.
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HawkeyeMS
Ryder Cup Winner
I'm not ignoring anything. Even in this post you say all your low scores contain the "occasional save" without which, you wouldn't have shot so low. It doesn't matter how many GIR you hit or how many putts you make, every good round relies on the short game to some extent. You may rely on it less than others but both of your posts have highlighted the fact that a short game is required to shoot low scores (low being an individual value for this thread)
Tiger man
Challenge Tour Pro
I think what we are saying here is there is more than one way to score well! Some rely on scrambling well and some shoot low because they hit lots of greens. In an ideal world we would be good at all the shots but if that was the case we would be on tour! It is still possible to shoot low both ways so play nice boys.
the smiling assassin
Challenge Tour Pro
I'm not denying short game is 'a factor', I just don't see it as the 'defining factor' for the average golfer as is so often commented on here. Just one of many factors, and if your crap at all the factors you aren't going low just because you fluke or perhaps skillfully make a couple of up and downs. For example, a lost ball off the tee is as bad as fluffing two chips.
la_lucha
Tour Rookie
I don't think anyone has said they rely on scrambling? All have said play to your strengths and avoid the trouble and therefore the requirement to scramble.
Tiger man
Challenge Tour Pro
Totally agree with this, its a case of knowing your game and which area to practice on to make the biggest improvements.
Tiger man
Challenge Tour Pro
Well if you not hitting fairways and greens you are going to be scrambling, like it or not.
la_lucha
Tour Rookie
Remember this is relative. If I miss a fairway and then lay up 75 yards short on the short stuff I am not scrambling for my 5 nett 4.
rustyb
Hacker
In my very short golfing career, I have found that my best rounds are ones where I'm in play off the tee(that doesn't necessarily mean on the fairway, and where I don't three putt.i.e no penalties and efficient on the green. On Monday I drew with my playing partner who literally duffed every approach shot he played. However he chipped in twice and one putted 4 times from ten foot plus which I didn't do all day.
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
Playing to our strengths is what its all about, especially with the tee shot
When we're three off the tee because we chased the extra yards, suddenly you need 'par' or better with your second ball just for a point.
That entire hole is now scrambling
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
I don't understand how someone with an obvious talent for the game can't hit a simple chip shot. Copy any of the 100s of the chipping videos online. Also buy some higher bounce wedges to stop you sticking them into the turf.
the smiling assassin
Challenge Tour Pro
Lee Westwood...
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
He is just not as good as the very best in the world. You are saying you would be out chipped by a lot of 20+ handicappers.
la_lucha
Tour Rookie
Until you fat the pitch:rofl:
When did you see me play? I tell people to keep quiet about that.
pbrown7582
Money List Winner
harsh..
the smiling assassin
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I thought this thread was supposed to be all relative...
It's great you find chipping so easy, that's what makes golf so interesting, different people have different skills. I still think stating you 'need' to have a really good short game to go low in the context of the club golfer is a bit misleading and unhelpful to those in search of their best game . Of course it ll help, but it's only one factor...It's not the holy grail, there are a truckload of others factors too. You can go low even if you chip like a beginner.
