Ready golf query

[splashtryagain]

I think I understand the concept of "ready golf" but to clarify something I wish to ask.....

If a player within a group has hit their approach shot to a green is it within the "ready golf" remit to just think they are now ready to go and chip/putt/both whilst others are in the fairway ready to play approach shots (100 yrds plus out)?

I don't want to rant to a pp until I'm absolutely sure (daft as it seems).

 

[Neilds]

Not quite sure I fully understand the question, but if you mean can the player who has hit his approach go and putt out, then I would say (in most cases) he should wait until everyone has played their approach shot. There may be some odd occasions when it is quicker for him to go and putt out but these would be in the minority. This is also a safety thing as well as a speed thing. I wouldn't want to be putting out when members of the group are still to play their approach.

 

[rulie]

If he is delaying/preventing the other players from playing their strokes, he's not within the "ready golf" concept.

 

[wjemather]

"Ready golf" is simply about a player who is ready to play hitting (assuming it's safe to do so) when others in the group who have the "honour" or are further from the hole are not ready, e.g. shorter hitters teeing off first if longer hitters need to wait for the group ahead to clear or is not ready to play for other reasons, hitting when someone further for the hole is taking time to assess their shot/take relief/rake a bunker, etc.

Walking forward 100 yards to complete the hole, making your playing partners wait for you to get out of the way, is not "ready golf".

 

[Orikoru]

I've always thought ready golf meant to play your shot if the person who should normally take their shot isn't ready. In your scenario the fairway players are ready so it wouldn't be appropriate for the chap by the green to butt in and play his shot. Especially as that would delay the group overall - since he can chip and putt while they are walking up having played their shots.

 

[Deleted member 36735]

Agree with above comments.
Ready golf really is "just use a bit of common sense and get on with it" if you're ready to play and whoever's turn it is isn't ready. For example, someone might have played out a bunker and is raking it, if you're ready just play instead of waiting. If you're on the tee and someone is going for a pee or faffing about with their bag, just play.

In the scenario though, I can't help wondering if the guy chipping and putting whilst 2 playing partners are still a hundred yards away is giving a not-so-subtle message...

I'll tell you what ready golf isn't...It's not an excuse for slow players to stand around deliberately doing something like marking the card when it's their honour so they can watch other players play first, eg on a par 3...
"Jim your honour"...
"Oh you go, I'm writing the scores down, ready golf"
"You should be ready, write the scores down after you've hit, get on with it"...

 

[splashtryagain]

Good, my understanding was correct.

In the above scenario the player hit his approach and walked up the middle of the fairway and proceeded to leave his bag at the front of the green whilst he hit a chip and putted. Myself and the other member of the group could not play our approaches (which we were ready to do) because it was not "safe" with him in the middle of the fairway or subsequently around the green. We were close behind the four-ball Infront on a course log jammed with four balls so no pace of play problem.

He failed to see he had done anything wrong.

 

[nickjdavis]

Good, my understanding was correct.

In the above scenario the player hit his approach and walked up the middle of the fairway and proceeded to leave his bag at the front of the green whilst he hit a chip and putted. Myself and the other member of the group could not play our approaches (which we were ready to do) because it was not "safe" with him in the middle of the fairway or subsequently around the green. We were close behind the four-ball Infront on a course log jammed with four balls so no pace of play problem.

He failed to see he had done anything wrong.

In which case he needs "educating".

Not only is this not "ready golf" but it is both putting himself in danger (assuming you played your shots) and being downright rude.

 

[Orikoru]

Good, my understanding was correct.

In the above scenario the player hit his approach and walked up the middle of the fairway and proceeded to leave his bag at the front of the green whilst he hit a chip and putted. Myself and the other member of the group could not play our approaches (which we were ready to do) because it was not "safe" with him in the middle of the fairway or subsequently around the green. We were close behind the four-ball Infront on a course log jammed with four balls so no pace of play problem.

He failed to see he had done anything wrong.

Yeah, that's not ready golf. That's somebody being an arse.

 

[splashtryagain]

It's the reason I'm currently refusing to play with him

 

[Deleted member 36735]

I don't understand why someone would hit their approach from over 100 yards and walk to the green when 2 playing partners are waiting to play from a similar distance.

Is there a bit more to it? Did he hit while you were both not already at your balls or something?

 

[splashtryagain]

It's the reason I'm currently refusing to play with him

 

[splashtryagain]

Nope, nothing more to it eesat

 

[Deleted member 36735]

Nope, nothing more to it eesat

So 3 of you are on the fairway at roughly the same distance, and out of nowhere he plays his approach and then just marches up before you've both played and proceeds to chip and putt out?

Is he old?

 

[Swango1980]

Good, my understanding was correct.

In the above scenario the player hit his approach and walked up the middle of the fairway and proceeded to leave his bag at the front of the green whilst he hit a chip and putted. Myself and the other member of the group could not play our approaches (which we were ready to do) because it was not "safe" with him in the middle of the fairway or subsequently around the green. We were close behind the four-ball Infront on a course log jammed with four balls so no pace of play problem.

He failed to see he had done anything wrong.

I'm as puzzled as EEsat

Are you saying this chap was playing golf in your group, he played his shot, he walked down the fairway in front of the guys he was playing with, played his next shot while you were all waiting for him to move? To the point he even went on the green and started to putt out?

That is one of the most absurd things I've ever heard a golfer do. Is he new to the sport and think everyone has to finish out one at a time, from start to finish? What did you say to him after? Basically, what on earth was going through his head?

 

[Orikoru]

I don't understand why someone would hit their approach from over 100 yards and walk to the green when 2 playing partners are waiting to play from a similar distance.

Is there a bit more to it? Did he hit while you were both not already at your balls or something?

It sounds a lot like someone having a tantrum due to having a bad round to me. It's hard to accept that someone would be this oblivious normally.

 

[Swango1980]

For the sake of completeness, this is directly from R&A:

In stroke play, you are both allowed and encouraged to play out of turn in a safe and responsible way, such as when:

• You agree with another player to do so for convenience or to save time,
• Your ball comes to rest a very short distance from the hole and you wish to hole out, or
• You are ready and able to play before another player whose turn it is to play under the normal order of play, so long as in playing out of turn you do not endanger, distract or interfere with any other player.

But if the player whose turn it is to play is ready and able to play and indicates that they want to play first, you should generally wait until that player has played.

However, I know we are all more interested in finding out more about this maverick, than about Ready Golf

 

[rulie]

It's the reason I'm currently refusing to play with him

Don't blame you a bit! Let him go ahead and play as a single.

 

[rosecott]

So 3 of you are on the fairway at roughly the same distance, and out of nowhere he plays his approach and then just marches up before you've both played and proceeds to chip and putt out?

Is he old?

Ageist comment? It has been a while.

 

[chrisd]

So 3 of you are on the fairway at roughly the same distance, and out of nowhere he plays his approach and then just marches up before you've both played and proceeds to chip and putt out?

Is he old?

What's his age got to do with it?