How many will submit “Qualfying Cards”

[IanM]

The US system was weird, there were players who play on Saturday, log in on Monday, and enter 92. No more detail than that.

I've played with them on holiday!! Put me down for 79 dude! (Didn't break 100)

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

I've played with them on holiday!! Put me down for 79 dude! (Didn't break 100)

Yep, these are the very guys I referred to in an early earlier.

 

[jimbob.someroo]

I would yes but it seems some people are advocating that every round should be submitted

As one of those who will be submitting lots of cards, I think this is where ‘our side’ of the argument is getting twisted slightly.

Unless I’m mistaken, nobody is saying you literally can’t step foot on a golf course without putting a card in. What is being said is that if you’re playing 18 holes on a measured course, and playing within the rules of golf, then there’s no reason to ‘not’ put that score in - particularly if you’re already keeping score for the purposes of a roll up / dink.

And has been said loads, if you’re playing crap or amazing, it’s not going to affect your handicap enough to garner a hugely significant change either way, particularly as there are caps on handicap going up, and you’re always taking an average of 8 - so even spectacular rounds won’t get you chopped loads.

 

[jimbob.someroo]

I'm in the minority, but I completely disagree.

They are all good boys and girls, I would love hundreds of dogs running around being silly.

The problem with online forums is that nobody will let me just enjoy this image in my head without pointing out the dangers and downsides.

But this would be wonderful place!

 

[USER1999]

Unless I’m mistaken, nobody is saying you literally can’t step foot on a golf course without putting a card in. What is being said is that if you’re playing 18 holes on a measured course, and playing within the rules of golf, then there’s no reason to ‘not’ put that score in - particularly if you’re already keeping score for the purposes of a roll up / dink.

But as in SiLH case previously stated, all main roll ups at his will be expected to put their cards in. To me, this is just wrong. Any one within that group can decide to, that's fine, but having counting rounds forced on you, because you play in certain roll ups is just wrong. I hope my club do not try to implement this.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I'm in the minority, but I completely disagree.

They are all good boys and girls, I would love hundreds of dogs running around being silly.

Start a separate thread, I'll get the popcorn

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

But as in SiLH case previously stated, all main roll ups at his will be expected to put their cards in. To me, this is just wrong. Any one within that group can decide to, that's fine, but having counting rounds forced on you, because you play in certain roll ups is just wrong. I hope my club do not try to implement this.

But as I also said - we can play the rollups in exactly the same way as we always have - with exactly the same mindset as we currenty do - if we wish - that it's just a friendly round of golf. If it turns out to be a great round - then great, if it's rubbish - then no big deal.

 

[Jimaroid]

So in summary.

People will complain if you don't hand in any non comp cards and win a comp.
People will complain if you do hand in comp cards and win a comp.



End thread.

I can reduce your (and Hogan's) ruleset as follows:

People will complain if you don't do the same as them.

Fin.

 

[USER1999]

But as I also said - we can play the rollups in exactly the same way as we always have - with exactly the same mindset as we currenty do - if we wish - that it's just a friendly round of golf. If it turns out to be a great round - then great, if it's rubbish - then no big deal.

But you still have to put cards in.

You still don't get it. You might be fine with it, but according to the votes on here, 40% will not be. That does not make the 60% correct, it's just a different opinion, that is now being forced on the 40% by your club.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

As one of those who will be submitting lots of cards, I think this is where ‘our side’ of the argument is getting twisted slightly.

Unless I’m mistaken, nobody is saying you literally can’t step foot on a golf course without putting a card in. What is being said is that if you’re playing 18 holes on a measured course, and playing within the rules of golf, then there’s no reason to ‘not’ put that score in - particularly if you’re already keeping score for the purposes of a roll up / dink.

And has been said loads, if you’re playing crap or amazing, it’s not going to affect your handicap enough to garner a hugely significant change either way, particularly as there are caps on handicap going up, and you’re always taking an average of 8 - so even spectacular rounds won’t get you chopped loads.

Lots of people quite simply don't want to put a card in. If they are having a knock with their mates and lose a ball they might not want to walk back because there is a possibility they could still score a point if they do so. Or they might not want to hole out every putt when they are 99% certain they will hole from 3ft. Or they might duff a chip and want to pull the ball back and have another go. I will play loads of competitions this year (hopefully) and I'm sure I will also submit additional counting scores but I will only do so when it suits me. If that means that I play 100 non counting rounds then so be it.

 

[SammmeBee]

You must mean playing on a local park or something! My mind would be blown ? if someone actually took a dog with them when they play on a proper golf course ? That and talking on a mobile at all. Why would anybody do that in reality.

Actually the better the golf course - the more dogs you see! There are probably 10 or 15 dogs that are out regularly.

Sunningdale and The Berkshire would usually have more groups with dogs (plural) then without any at all. Goodwood actually have a membership for dogs and they all get a bow with their name on it in the clubhouse!

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Actually the better the golf course - the more dogs you see! There are probably 10 or 15 dogs that are out regularly.

Sunningdale and The Berkshire would usually have more groups with dogs (plural) then without any at all. Goodwood actually have a membership for dogs and they all get a bow with their name on it in the clubhouse!

I like courses that allow dogs, something kinda 'traditional' and genteel about it.

 

[USER1999]

At mine, dogs used to only be allowed to be 5 day members, and couldn't play at weekends.
I think they can now be full 7 day dogs.

 

[jim8flog]

Dogs are allowed at quite a number of courses(lots don't allow dogs), for example :-

Dogs Play For Free At Sunningdale Golf Club | Only A Game (wbur.org)

We had a members vote on it and the number of Nos was well in excess of the Yesses.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

But you still have to put cards in.

You still don't get it. You might be fine with it, but according to the votes on here, 40% will not be. That does not make the 60% correct, it's just a different opinion, that is now being forced on the 40% by your club.

It is being required of us, but when I thought it through I realised it need not make any difference whatsoever to how I play our rollup. We have been booking into it and scoring it through the clubs IG for a year now, and so we just keep doing the same. Prior to using IG we handed our cards in for the rollup comp. The only difference now is that behind the scenes the round goes into my pot of 20. That it’s now a counting round I now realise I can simply ignore - that it counts for my pot is a complete by-the-by.

 

[MendieGK]

Got bored of reading 13 pages of this but I’ll be entering cards most rounds.

I think the reason people struggle so much in competitions is because they differentiate so much between social and competitive. They take comps so seriously when winning a monthly medal actually means tit all.

Outside of scratch comps IMO your handicap is the only trophy that matters. No one ever says ‘oh how many board comps have you won?’ That ask ‘what’s your handicap?’

I actually find social/non competitive golf a little hard work. Would much rather be playing with mates, have a card in my hand and get the best of both worlds.

 

[USER1999]

It is being required of us, but when I thought it through I realised it need not make any difference whatsoever to how I play our rollup. We have been booking into it and scoring it through the clubs IG for a year now, and so we just keep doing the same. Prior to using IG we handed our cards in for the rollup comp. The only difference now is that behind the scenes the round goes into my pot of 20. That it’s now a counting round I now realise I can simply ignore - that it counts for my pot is a complete by-the-by.

Yes, you have said, numerous times how you are going to deal with it. We are all different. The point is still, that for 40% of your swindle, your golf club are making them put a card in when they don't want to. It really is not hard to understand. Not everyone thinks like you, or wants to.

 

[Imurg]

Has there been a definitive "Roll ups are comps" decision or is it being left to clubs..?
I'm fine with putting non competition cards in when you want but not fine with being told when that will be....

 

[Bdill93]

Lots of people quite simply don't want to put a card in. If they are having a knock with their mates and lose a ball they might not want to walk back because there is a possibility they could still score a point if they do so. Or they might not want to hole out every putt when they are 99% certain they will hole from 3ft. Or they might duff a chip and want to pull the ball back and have another go. I will play loads of competitions this year (hopefully) and I'm sure I will also submit additional counting scores but I will only do so when it suits me. If that means that I play 100 non counting rounds then so be it.

A score not played within the rules cant be submitted can it... No ones suggesting to submit those.

I think @Imurg summed it up well earlier this thread with the "card in hand" rounds argument.

 

[USER1999]

Has there been a definitive "Roll ups are comps" decision or is it being left to clubs..?
I'm fine with putting non competition cards in when you want but not fine with being told when that will be....

I believe at the moment it is down to individual clubs. I hope my club does not take the view that Hughs club have done.