I GET SHOTS

[IJames]

In Strokeplay, I've generally (in both UHS and WHS) simply used the sum of stableford differential - positive being ahead of handicap, negative being behind - to measure how any round is going, while recording gross scores on the scorecard. Nice and simple and little difference to Matchplay. Nice and simple and applicable to both regimes.

 

[Jimaroid]

I just dont think par is a relatable number for the vaste majority of golfers. They are neither good enough to be tending towards level, or, are playing handicap competition, so may as well keep any mental score in that format, as that is what matters for that round. Stableford in the main.

Stableford scores are derived from Par. Par has meaning to every player.

This is the issue I have. Gross score is all that matters because every single measure and scoring system is derived from it. That is why that is the minimum that needs recorded on a scorecard. Everything else is a derivative.

Play each hole, write down how many times you hit the ball. Move on. Enjoy the round, do the maths at the end.

I absolutely hate being told my score half way round. And having to do sums on the 10th tee when I’d much rather be hitting my ball, eating a pie or drinking a coffee.

 

[Backsticks]

How do you feel about keeping track of one's gross score - ie one's golf score?

It just has no relevance to me I guess. I am never playing gross score competitions, so it isnt relevant to my level of golf. For scratch players in non handicapped competitions, of course, I see the merit.

 

[Backsticks]

Stableford scores are derived from Par. Par has meaning to every player.

This is the issue I have. Gross score is all that matters because every single measure and scoring system is derived from it. That is why that is the minimum that needs recorded on a scorecard. Everything else is a derivative.

Play each hole, write down how many times you hit the ball. Move on. Enjoy the round, do the maths at the end.

I absolutely hate being told my score half way round. And having to do sums on the 10th tee when I’d much rather be hitting my ball, eating a pie or drinking a coffee.

I play no competition where totted gross scores are the result.
Generally playing stableford. I will know in my head as I play, my points tot. I couldnt not. It takes no effort. The gross score is irrelevant and I have no need to tot it in that case.

 

[Voyager EMH]

It just has no relevance to me I guess. I am never playing gross score competitions, so it isnt relevant to my level of golf. For scratch players in non handicapped competitions, of course, I see the merit.

I play in two gross score competitions each year and about 40 net competitions. More stablefords than medals.
I think about my net score (or stableford points) after I've completed my round and I think about my golf score (each hole and cumulative) during my round.
Thinking about my net score (or stableford points) during my round would add a further calculation to be applied to my golf score for each hole - so I don't do it.

 

[Voyager EMH]

Stableford scores are derived from Par. Par has meaning to every player.

This is the issue I have. Gross score is all that matters because every single measure and scoring system is derived from it. That is why that is the minimum that needs recorded on a scorecard. Everything else is a derivative.

Play each hole, write down how many times you hit the ball. Move on. Enjoy the round, do the maths at the end.

I absolutely hate being told my score half way round. And having to do sums on the 10th tee when I’d much rather be hitting my ball, eating a pie or drinking a coffee.

I'd like to hear more about the pie. Are we talking meat or apple?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

In my regular Sat rollup I’ll be told by the group marker my stableford pts at the turn and asked if I think it's right. I usually don't know but will say such as 'dunno - not great - was I’m thinking maybe 12, could be 14 so your 14 is about right‘. I check at the end.

 

[BiMGuy]

Given the number of people who claim to feel the pressure of submitting a score. I believe most people are better off not keeping track of their score.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

I play no competition where totted gross scores are the result.
Generally playing stableford. I will know in my head as I play, my points tot. I couldnt not. It takes no effort. The gross score is irrelevant and I have no need to tot it in that case.

The gross score is the only score you must write on a scorecard. So it is the most relevant score of all.

 

[Jason.H]

If you don’t note down the gross scores how do you enter your scores into the computer after the round. It’s always gross scores in the computer for stablefords and medals.
If people are struggling with the new system is is because they don’t have England Golf app so they can’t plainly see their best 8 of 20?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Given the number of people who claim to feel the pressure of submitting a score. I believe most people are better off not keeping track of their score.

…especially as they claim that the pressure of submitting a score is one of the reasons they don’t like WHS and it’s underlying drive to get players submitting more cards.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

The gross score is the only score you must write on a scorecard. So it is the most relevant score of all.

In fact our golf manager‘s advice to members when WHS was launched was simply to write down your gross and let the system work the rest out.

 

[Jimaroid]

I'd like to hear more about the pie. Are we talking meat or apple?

Steak and gravy. Provided they haven’t run out, which they often do as they are so darned good.

 

[Backsticks]

The gross score is the only score you must write on a scorecard. So it is the most relevant score of all.

Sure, I know the gross score per hole.
But in itself is not important - the sum of them has no meaning for me - I am not playing competitions where that sum determines the results page. Its points, v par, or net, that will be on the results. So thats the running score in my head as I play. It doesnt matter that I took a 10 on a hole as such, rather that I didnt increase my points tally on that hole.

 

[Kennysarmy]

The gross score is the only score you must write on a scorecard. So it is the most relevant score of all.

Relevant only during each specific hole

Once I'm on the second hole the gross score on the 1st hole is irrelevant....

Interesting discussion BTW.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

Sure, I know the gross score per hole.
But in itself is not important - the sum of them has no meaning for me - I am not playing competitions where that sum determines the results page. Its points, v par, or net, that will be on the results. So thats the running score in my head as I play. It doesnt matter that I took a 10 on a hole as such, rather that I didnt increase my points tally on that hole.

You've never played a medal?

 

[Orikoru]

I'm not a fan of the 'new' handicap system. But the positive side is that I've genuinely stopped caring what my handicap is now. When I understood it, I was focussed on getting it lower, but now you can have a good round and go up, or have an average round and get cut, so who cares. It can be whatever it is.