Does your club require a minimum number of Acceptable Scores before winning prizes in a Competition.

[louise_a]

I have been watching a team of ladies who seem to win opens nearly every time they play in them around here , they are playing a few comps at their home club but their last 20 scores are spread over 3 years so the average of the best 8 is not really representative of how they are currently playing

 

[NearHull]

I have been watching a team of ladies who seem to win opens nearly every time they play in them around here , they are playing a few comps at their home club but their last 20 scores are spread over 3 years so the average of the best 8 is not really representative of how they are currently playing[/QUOTE]

i think that is the issue really.

 

[IanM]

I have been watching a team of ladies who seem to win opens nearly every time they play in them around here , they are playing a few comps at their home club but their last 20 scores are spread over 3 years so the average of the best 8 is not really representative of how they are currently playing

Plenty of those about. Sadly

 

[chellie]

I have been watching a team of ladies who seem to win opens nearly every time they play in them around here , they are playing a few comps at their home club but their last 20 scores are spread over 3 years so the average of the best 8 is not really representative of how they are currently playing

Same in mixed. Couple this thread is about are still doing it this year https://forums.golfmonthly.com/threads/is-this-a-record.109745

 

[clubchamp98]

I think we all knew this would happen.
The system is good if used properly,but sadly it’s very easy to manipulate.
A small minority are ruining it for the rest of us.
I have noticed some opens around the NW are half empty, cost of living maybe.
But would wager handicap cheating is a main cause.

 

[chellie]

I think we all knew this would happen.
The system is good if used properly,but sadly it’s very easy to manipulate.
A small minority are ruining it for the rest of us.
I have noticed some opens around the NW are half empty, cost of living maybe.
But would wager handicap cheating is a main cause.

Same when you only had to have a C handicap though surely?

I am amazed that some clubs publish the prize pots in advance.

 

[Paperboy]

We just had an email from the Manager stating that a minimum of 6 cards / comps in the last 12 months. It's not that difficult to do tbh

 

[clubchamp98]

Same when you only had to have a C handicap though surely?

I am amazed that some clubs publish the prize pots in advance.

Not really imo you could only go up .1 ,now you can go up or down several shots in just a month.
Prizes should be abolished imo.
Play for the trophy and free entry next year.

 

[KenL]

Not really imo you could only go up .1 ,now you can go up or down several shots in just a month.
Prizes should be abolished imo.
Play for the trophy and free entry next year.

No prizes would kill entries surely?

 

[mikejohnchapman]

We had a player shoot a nett 57 of 15 handicap in the first round of our senior championship. As I expected I got a few notes questioning whether the Handicap Committee were doing there job and whether this person was manipulating their handicap.

A quick look at his playing record revealed 168 rounds since WHS was introduced, the vast majority being competitive rounds. His playing record consisted of rounds played since May 2022 - all were competitive. He hadn't shot a round this good since WHS was introduced, in fact it was 10 shots better than his previous best.

He got cut by 3.1 shots, a 2 shot ES adjustment and a 1.1 reduction in his HI as he pushed out another good score.

Just occasionally you have to say - "well done, that was a hell of a round" and not assume he is a cheat.

PS he shot 95 2 days later in the next competition.

 

[clubchamp98]

No prizes would kill entries surely?

It would make it cheaper to play.
The course and a good day out is the main thing.
But we will never know until somebody tries it.

 

[IanM]

Just had an email from the comp committee stating from next year you must have 5 qualifying scores in comps in previous 6 months to play in the board/Cup comps. (And have 20 scores on your record)

 

[KenL]

Just had an email from the comp committee stating from next year you must have 5 qualifying scores in comps in previous 6 months to play in the board/Cup comps. (And have 20 scores on your record)

Not very inclusive for new members/golfers that.

 

[woofers]

Just had an email from the comp committee stating from next year you must have 5 qualifying scores in comps in previous 6 months to play in the board/Cup comps. (And have 20 scores on your record)

Good, I wish my club would do the same.
20 scores on your record is basically the requirement to have a fully developed WHS handicap, nothing wrong with that. 5 comps in the previous 6 months for the clubs major / prestigious comps, no problem with that, if you are a competitive golfer it shouldn’t bother you. Is there a proviso that if you don’t meet the requirements, you can play, but not win a prize, that way the comp round can count towards your requirements for future events?

 

[Deleted member 3432]

All this just sounds like clubs/players don't believe WHS is working.

Either than or jealousy to 'non regular' golfers winning.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

All this just sounds like clubs/players don't believe WHS is working.

Either than or jealousy to 'non regular' golfers winning.

Or that the WHS has given multiple player higher handicaps than there ability and are now cleaning up in comps

Many clubs are bringing in limits which shows the lack of confidence within the handicap system

 

[Deleted member 3432]

Or that the WHS has given multiple player higher handicaps than there ability and are now cleaning up in comps

Many clubs are bringing in limits which shows the lack of confidence within the handicap system

I don't disagree but by putting limits on number of comps or cards submitted isn't going to fix anything as the system is skewed towards certain handicap groups.

 

[IanM]

The issue is application of the system rather than the system itself.

New players scores throw up oddities, as does the diversity in the number of cards players submit.

These measures are an attempt to smooth this out.

The old system didn't have grown men getting 40 shots!

 

[woofers]

I don't disagree but by putting limits on number of comps or cards submitted isn't going to fix anything as the system is skewed towards certain handicap groups.

How is it skewed, and to which groups please?

 

[clubchamp98]

All this just sounds like clubs/players don't believe WHS is working.

Either than or jealousy to 'non regular' golfers winning.

Most genuine golfers have no problem with their handicaps.

But it’s open to to much abuse by the unscrupulous pot hunters.