ball hitting bag who gets penalty

[Foxholer]

The bags are movable obstructions and can be moved at any time other than moving them out of the way of a moving ball.

Where does it state that?

Surely they are simply 'equipment'.

19-4 makes pretty specific reference to 'outside agency' though! Does 19-4 need some additional wording to say...19-1 'as if it was an' outside agency or 'as per' outside agency.

Aren't there differences in how 'equipment' and 'moveable obstructions' can be moved by the various types of player - Player, Opponent and FC?

 

[rulefan]

Where does it state that?

Surely they are simply 'equipment'.

19-4 makes pretty specific reference to 'outside agency' though! Does 19-4 need some additional wording to say...19-1 'as if it was an' outside agency or 'as per' outside agency.

Aren't there differences in how 'equipment' and 'moveable obstructions' can be moved by the various types of player - Player, Opponent and FC?

Bags etc satisfy the definition of Movable Obstruction. There are many things on a golf course that can be two things at the same time. A dead branch is a Loose Impediment and also an Outside Agency. A fixed distance post is an Immovable Obstruction and an Outside Agency. It depends on the circumstances which 'condition/status' applies.

 

[Foxholer]

Thanks That makes a lot of sense. :thup:

 

[markgs]

im still down know who gets the penalty

 

[CMAC]

im still down know who gets the penalty

seriously?

hit your own bag or partners bag (in 4 ball etc) you get penalised.

Hit opponents bag ya don't.

 

[Baldy Bouncer]

im still down know who gets the penalty

so what is the rule someone put it in simply for who get the penalty in stroke play the player who bag it is or the player that hits?

I think it would be advisable to not post when you are drunk or off your tits on weed.

 

[TheJezster]

I think it would be advisable to not post when you are drunk or off your tits on weed.

Hahahahahhahaha that made me spit my tea out!

 

[pogle]

The bags are movable obstructions and can be moved at any time other than moving them out of the way of a moving ball.

From 24-1
"When a ball is in motion, an obstruction that might influence the movement of the ball, other than equipment of any player or the flagstick when attended, removed or held up, must not be moved."