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Isn't that largely true for any of the top 20 though..?
Tiger played well at Augusta but if others had stepped up he may not have won.
You need more than a decent dose of good fortune to win any Major.
You need the other top players to have off days - that even goes for Brooks this weekend.
Granted, he's been superb but nobody else is going with him.

Totally agree
Except for that point that keeps getting rolled out that Rory is untouchable when he's on
If you're untouchable it really doesn't matter what any other player does, you'll win
 
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I can't recall when Rory last had a first round like that. He has hit good scores. But when he last had a round clearly better than the rest of the field?

Also. Why is it wrong for people to question him and yet OK for others to claim he's the best of the best when on it. when in the last 5 years his record in majors and PGA events doesn't show this?

Certainly not writing him off. But I wouldn't say more majors are as likely as they were 5 years ago.

Koepka was only one better than the guy behind and I guess you could say Rory’s second round at Sawgrass with a 7 under round after his opening 5 under

I don’t think anyone said it’s wrong to question him ?
 

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Just to clarify,some seem to have taken this the wrong way.
Personally I think Rory will win another major,also if he turns up for 4 days he can beat anybody,but so can Dj,Brooks and even Jason Day imo.

His A game is no better than other top players.
 
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Totally agree
Except for that point that keeps getting rolled out that Rory is untouchable when he's on
If you're untouchable it really doesn't matter what any other player does, you'll win

Have people really said Rory is “untouchable” ?
 

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Have people really said Rory is “untouchable” ?
Problem with rory is even though he is from northern Ireland he is also 'British' and with that comes the world beater attitude and the media hype. Very much like the English national team at events :ROFLMAO: Yes he is a world class player but there are another 15 of him playing every week, he ain't goina run away with anything and he is far from untouchable as a golfer
 

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Koepka was only one better than the guy behind and I guess you could say Rory’s second round at Sawgrass with a 7 under round after his opening 5 under

I don’t think anyone said it’s wrong to question him ?

I thought we were discussing majors.
We are also discussing the top guys performances. Lots of players have one off rounds. Where was Lee after round two?

My point was simply that people claim that at his best Rory is still the best. For me that's hard to prove as like you say. They very Rarely go head to head on form, but for me over the last 5 years lots of other players have put 3/4 good rounds together far more often than Rory. Kinda dispelling this myth that Rory is somehow the on form.
 

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Back to the comp. Brilliant to see Beemer after his round. Clearly chuffed to have made the weekend. For me that's a posstive to past champs getting to go back.

It obviously means a lot to him to have the opportunity.
 
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I thought we were discussing majors.
We are also discussing the top guys performances. Lots of players have one off rounds. Where was Lee after round two?

My point was simply that people claim that at his best Rory is still the best. For me that's hard to prove as like you say. They very Rarely go head to head on form, but for me over the last 5 years lots of other players have put 3/4 good rounds together far more often than Rory. Kinda dispelling this myth that Rory is somehow the on form.

But he has been on form this season ? In fact his results this season have been excellent - and I think it’s one year in the last 5 where he hasn’t won a tournament when he was injured. He may not have won majors in those 5 years but he has won - WGC , Fed Ex plus a number of other tournaments - I think 11 tournament wins in that period ? Will be interesting to know who has won more in that period.

And I don’t see these claims of “untouchable” and best of the best etc etc.

Maybe are reading far too much into want some are saying
 
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Dont think he'd be up there with Brooks at his best

Of course he would - it’s stupid it even suggest he wouldn’t be up there challenging him. He wouldn’t blow him away but he would challenge Koepka.
 

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Of course he would - it’s stupid it even suggest he wouldn’t be up there challenging him. He wouldn’t blow him away but he would challenge Koepka.
He would struggle to match what Brooks is doing even at his best, rory makes too many unforced errors and thats his biggest weakness always has been
 

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But he has been on form this season ? In fact his results this season have been excellent - and I think it’s one year in the last 5 where he hasn’t won a tournament when he was injured. He may not have won majors in those 5 years but he has won - WGC , Fed Ex plus a number of other tournaments - I think 11 tournament wins in that period ? Will be interesting to know who has won more in that period.

And I don’t see these claims of “untouchable” and best of the best etc etc.

Maybe are reading far too much into want some are saying

I believe the quote was. "on form he can do things the others can't". Pretty sure most people interpret that the same way I have.

I'd probably hazard a guess that on the US tour Rose, DJ and schauffele have won more since 2015.
Again I'm not denying his talent or success, but the best are judged on majors. A few years ago I don't think many doubted he'd surpass Faldo. I doubt he will now.
 
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He would struggle to match what Brooks is doing even at his best, rory makes too many unforced errors and thats his biggest weakness always has been

If both players are on form then they are going to be near impossible to separate - Koepka is not the complete golfer just like Rory isn’t - Koepka also makes unforced errors but this week he has got away with a few at the moment - and that’s what helps players win these big tournaments.

I believe the quote was. "on form he can do things the others can't". Pretty sure most people interpret that the same way I have.

It’s a good statement - Rory can drive the ball like no other when he is on form

I'd probably hazard a guess that on the US tour Rose, DJ and schauffele have won more since 2015.
Again I'm not denying his talent or success, but the best are judged on majors. A few years ago I don't think many doubted he'd surpass Faldo. I doubt he will now.


Rose has won about 8 times , DJ about 10/11 , Schauffele about 4 or 5 .

And I still see him passing Faldo
 

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If both players are on form then they are going to be near impossible to separate - Koepka is not the complete golfer just like Rory isn’t - Koepka also makes unforced errors but this week he has got away with a few at the moment - and that’s what helps players win these big tournaments.



It’s a good statement - Rory can drive the ball like no other when he is on form




Rose has won about 8 times , DJ about 10/11 , Schauffele about 4 or 5 .

And I still see him passing Faldo
Koepka doesn't make the same amount of unforced errors as rory does, also your saying rory can drive it like no other on form have you seen how koepka is driving it this week ? You have to be kidding. Rory hasn't been capable of stringing 4 good rounds together in a major for a few years now, he seems ok when he doesn't really have a chance to win but will post a low number and sneak a top 10 but it just isn't there when it matters, he starts blowing wedges over greens n stuff, you just dont see other top players consistently do that
 

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He would struggle to match what Brooks is doing even at his best, rory makes too many unforced errors and thats his biggest weakness always has been
This, and it is becoming more and more evident in majors where he never seems to feature at the moment. Trying too hard perhaps, loss of form at bad times or simply not good enough to keep up as others like Koepka come through
 
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