YouTubers.

[4LEX]

Can someone explain to me about Pro-Ams pls.

When I see them advertised on Golf Empire they all seem v expensive (irrespective of the quality / cost of the course they’re being held at)..

What’s the incentive for the Pro to enter, what’s the economics for the PGA Pro, in terms of cost, reward and incentives….and for the amateurs, what’s the incentives and advantages of it?

It depends on the quality of the course and club on the price. A lot aren't on Golf Empire and most of the top clubs don't even have them.

If you enter a team, that's for 3 amateurs and one pro. You would usually bring your own pro that's a friend or known to the team. He has to pay his entry to the PGA but in some cases the guy putting the team together will cover that. The PGA entry fees get added together and the cash prize fund for the pro's comes from that.

For the amateurs you'd ideally want a pro capable of shooting under par as his score will be the backbone of the round and the amateurs can then chip in with their shots. The entry fees from the amateur side will go to a prize fund which is made up of golf clubs, vouchers etc.

It's a great format and a good mix of serious golf and some fun when the round falls apart

Usually the home pro has a beat the pro on a par 3 and amateurs makes silly bets to help boost his bank balance. I once took a pro up on his offer and he got a hole in one

 

[Burnsey]

Can someone explain to me about Pro-Ams pls.

When I see them advertised on Golf Empire they all seem v expensive (irrespective of the quality / cost of the course they’re being held at)..

What’s the incentive for the Pro to enter, what’s the economics for the PGA Pro, in terms of cost, reward and incentives….and for the amateurs, what’s the incentives and advantages of it?

The pro's get their entry, courses and hotels all paid by the prices paid by the AM's.

They then use the time to teach and film.

Usualy only cost are the flights.

 

[DeanoMK]

I guess we get an answer of how good YouTube golfers really are when put into a professional field.

Do they, or one of them, make the cut?
I don’t watch them, but on the YouTube handicap list they are top (if we ignore Bryson)

The YouTube golfer is doing okay so far

 

[3 jabber]

Looks like Poults is entering the YouTube space

https://twitter.com/x/status/1938568457441689802

One guy I certainly won't be watching, he is so far up his own backside.

 

[kp17]

Fleetwood’s set up his own channel too.

 

[larmen]

They must have seen how successful Bryson got

 

[Deleted member 21784]

They must have seen how successful Bryson got

Don't think many will be as successful as BDC with regards to YouTube. He for one has that energy and charisma. Then has the fact he is American which is obviously a big win for the USA audience. Id watch and enjoy Fleetwood but will the yanks

 

[larmen]

For whatever reason they watch R/S over there

 

[Petercool]

They are the good good guys, right?

You have to be trolling.

The Bryan bros and Grant show all their shots. Good and bad.

The good good guys heavliy edit their videos to remove the bad shots.

Good good even edit in sounds to make shots seem pure.

They are selling and Brad and merch.

Bob and Joey and FP are more honest than good good.

 

[Petercool]

How many quests for Open thingys has Finch done now?
Making it to final qualifying was great - does he drop it now, or is it a sufficient interest maker to go again?

When you first broke 80 did you stop playing?

 

[Deleted member 21784]

For whatever reason they watch R/S over there

He was a pioneer tho and targets the us audience.. if he started now he would be just another voice

Finch isn't as huge over there

 

[spongebob59]

Started watching the latest Bullard outing on the legends tour.
Using a proper caddy helps

 

[simsini]

This is a great watch.

 

[Slab]

GolfMates (mostly) going behind paywall for their Viids now, on their own standalone website

Wonder how that'll work out for them

 

[Mel Smooth]

GolfMates (mostly) going behind paywall for their Viids now, on their own standalone website

Wonder how that'll work out for them

Generally it doesn’t work - but Liam has a decent following so you never know.
As I commented on his Facebook post on the subject - yesterday Bryson, Phil, Grant and Garret released a 60 minute video (1.1 million views in 12 hours) Poults released one with the Murray brothers (33K views on a channel with 5000 subs) - both are excellently and professionally produced with some of the biggest names in their respective sports. The algorithm will push those vids over Liams.
The guy has done countless giveaways, built a great community, and supported a lot of other people with charity events etc - all for nowt to the user. I’ve joined up - help the guy out. It’s hard work running a small business right now in the UK, let alone a golf You Tube channel in a rapidly changing market.

 

[Mel Smooth]

This is a great watch.

Didn’t Andy Murray only just take his 1st golf lesson a couple of years back?

Lad can flush it if he catches one right. He’s actually got some decent deadpan comedy in him as well.

 

[Slab]

Generally it doesn’t work - but Liam has a decent following so you never know.
As I commented on his Facebook post on the subject - yesterday Bryson, Phil, Grant and Garret released a 60 minute video, Poults released one with the Murray brothers - both are excellently and professionally produced with some of the biggest names in their respective sports. The algorithm will push those vids over Liams.
The guy has done countless giveaways, built a great community, and supported a lot of other people with charity events etc - all for nowt to the user. I’ve joined up - help the guy out. It’s hard work running a small business right now in the UK, let alone a golf You Tube channel in a rapidly changing market.

Bold move, not sure if its easily reversible if it doesn’t convert enough followers to be subscribers. Seven quid a month isn’t cheap for limited streamed content
I guess he’ll get an initial euphoric rush that’ll quickly tail off as each subscriber hits any personal financial hiccup or don’t see the vfm etc

The biggest thing he'll need to adjust to is that his 'golf mates' are no longer his mates and are now his customers and will have diff expectations/requirements

 

[SteveJay]

Bold move, not sure if its easily reversible if it doesn’t convert enough followers to be subscribers. Seven quid a month isn’t cheap for limited streamed content
I guess he’ll get an initial euphoric rush that’ll quickly tail off as each subscriber hits any personal financial hiccup or don’t see the vfm etc

The biggest thing he'll need to adjust to is that his 'golf mates' are no longer his mates and are now his customers and will have diff expectations/requirements

Agree entirely. In the early days he made such a big thing that viewers were mates not subscribers. This seems a total reversal and maybe justifies a change of title for the channel! I haven't watched much of him lately, lost the early interest and entertainment he achieved in his initial years.

 

[Skytot]

GolfMates (mostly) going behind paywall for their Viids now, on their own standalone website

Wonder how that'll work out for them

I like Golfmates & the lads but not enough to subscribe. Shame they do some great hidden gems videos

 

[Arthur Wedge]

GolfMates (mostly) going behind paywall for their Viids now, on their own standalone website

Wonder how that'll work out for them

So many people actually pay to watch amateurs play golf ?