MegaSteve
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Then why post it? Unsurprising that a thread full of posts from blokes in full denial a cheapshot comes along...
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Then why post it? Unsurprising that a thread full of posts from blokes in full denial a cheapshot comes along...
USER1999
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Hang him.
SteveW86
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This was posted on Facebook by a female lawyer friend of mine, not sure how much of a joke it is intended to be.
RichA
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For the last week, the main news story has been about the abduction and murder of a young woman in London.
This post was started yesterday by a man who, after talking to his wife and daughter, found himself thinking that men in general could think a bit harder about their attitudes towards women.
After 24 hours of denials, arguments and diversions, it's ended up with funnies about sexual assault.
This post was started yesterday by a man who, after talking to his wife and daughter, found himself thinking that men in general could think a bit harder about their attitudes towards women.
After 24 hours of denials, arguments and diversions, it's ended up with funnies about sexual assault.
Fade and Die
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These ‘protests’ have nothing to do with justice or even the tragic Ms Everard herself or what happened to her....Just like the Floyd George Circus, this is about narcissism, point scoring, virtue signalling, getting attention, and having a ’cause’ and causing trouble just for the sake of it. This is not about her – Ms. Everard – and it never was. This is about them, it’s always about them. Entitled look at me scum.
I think if someone is unconscious and you're applying defib pads the intent is fairly obvious...... but was the glass of wine accidently spilt or on purpose? Innocent until proven guilty, yes but in the current climate I'm not sure common sense always comes to the fore.
In the main, I agree the whole thing was hijacked by rent-a-mob screaming in the faces of Police officers. However, the underlying point of making society safer for women still stands.
4LEX
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I have to say I'm in support of the protests. Sure some people will use it as a way to hate on men and cause trouble but I genuinely think the majority of it is well meaning and vital. If it can make streets safer for women and make men realise certain behaviours aren't acceptable then it needs to happen.
I've been out a lot over the years in London and northern cities. Despite being 6ft and well built, I've been bottled, assualted, nose broken, threatened with a knife twice and mugged. Thankfully I'm more popular with the girls
I take it as part of the night, defend myself and that's the way it is. For a women though it must be horrible knowing if someone wants to attack you, you've got no chance. That's the difference and I can't really imagine what it's like for them alone on public transport or walking at night.
The stats say men are three times more likely to be murdered than women and more likely to be killed by someone they don't know and in public but the fear is real. Every time my Mum finds a new walking route I go over and walk it myself to check it's safe. That's in a nice area of the country and shouldn't have to happen.
If we can raise awareness for the safety issues women face and adjust behaviours then it's worth it
I've been out a lot over the years in London and northern cities. Despite being 6ft and well built, I've been bottled, assualted, nose broken, threatened with a knife twice and mugged. Thankfully I'm more popular with the girls
I take it as part of the night, defend myself and that's the way it is. For a women though it must be horrible knowing if someone wants to attack you, you've got no chance. That's the difference and I can't really imagine what it's like for them alone on public transport or walking at night.The stats say men are three times more likely to be murdered than women and more likely to be killed by someone they don't know and in public but the fear is real. Every time my Mum finds a new walking route I go over and walk it myself to check it's safe. That's in a nice area of the country and shouldn't have to happen.
If we can raise awareness for the safety issues women face and adjust behaviours then it's worth it
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I have to say I'm in support of the protests. Sure some people will use it as a way to hate on men and cause trouble but I genuinely think the majority of it is well meaning and vital. If it can make streets safer for women and make men realise certain behaviours aren't acceptable then it needs to happen.
I've been out a lot over the years in London and northern cities. Despite being 6ft and well built, I've been bottled, assualted, nose broken, threatened with a knife twice and mugged. Thankfully I'm more popular with the girls
The stats say men are three times more likely to be murdered than women and more likely to be killed by someone they don't know and in public but the fear is real. Every time my Mum finds a new walking route I go over and walk it myself to check it's safe. That's in a nice area of the country and shouldn't have to happen.
If we can raise awareness for the safety issues women face and adjust behaviours then it's worth it
It was hijacked by anti police protests
Blue in Munich
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It's not the applying the pads that is the issue Brian, it's what you were instructed to do prior to applying the pads.
And I fully agree with you; it should be fairly obvious what you are doing and why, but common sense seems to have gone out of the window.
SocketRocket
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Don't you bother to read and digest a post before replying to it. There have been suggestions that there is no excuse for a man to touch a woman's breast, even if not intentional.
I thought it was obvious that I posted the video to show that such things can happen inadvertently.
MegaSteve
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A young woman has had her life taken... Which prompted a thread here... No doubt hoping for an adult discussion...
Instead you use it as an opportunity for a cheap shot... Shame on you...
SocketRocket
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Have you bothered to follow the thread, much of it has been about someone who said they accidently touched a woman's breast after spilling drink on her. One poster has been saying there's no excuse for that under any circumstances, the video I posted was to show evidence that such things can happen by mistake. If you think it was to make light or a cheap shot over the death of a young woman then you need to stand back and take a good look at yourself. Your post is opportunistic clap trap.
PJ87
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Yeah she might not want you shaving her chest while she's unconscious ?
(Edit: in case anyone is wondering, there is a razor in the defib box as the pads won't stick on a hairy chest) ?
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Duckster
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I don’t know if this is a region thing, but I’ve honestly never even thought about the difference between the safety of women of men at night. Since this news came out and also reading this thread I’ve asked the women I know, so the Mrs, my sister, my aunt and a few friends. Not a single one has said they’ve been afraid at night or had to think about their routes taken etc...
I’m saying it doesn’t happen but just that people I know aren’t worried about it
I’m saying it doesn’t happen but just that people I know aren’t worried about it
Swinglowandslow
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I have to say I'm in support of the protests. Sure some people will use it as a way to hate on men and cause trouble but I genuinely think the majority of it is well meaning and vital. If it can make streets safer for women and make men realise certain behaviours aren't acceptable then it needs to happen.
I've been out a lot over the years in London and northern cities. Despite being 6ft and well built, I've been bottled, assualted, nose broken, threatened with a knife twice and mugged. Thankfully I'm more popular with the girls
The stats say men are three times more likely to be murdered than women and more likely to be killed by someone they don't know and in public but the fear is real. Every time my Mum finds a new walking route I go over and walk it myself to check it's safe. That's in a nice area of the country and shouldn't have to happen.
If we can raise awareness for the safety issues women face and adjust behaviours then it's worth it
I'm sorry, I genuinely wish that it could, but it really won't. The men who have attacked and hurt or attacked and demeaned women have all, except maybe one in thousands, known that what they were doing is wrong.
The question of making them aware , or education, is simply not the case.
Just because men are not vociferously saying it shouldn't happen , doesn't mean they don't care that it is happening , or tacitly agreeing that it is OK.
The majority of people don't agree or are upset st all crimes, yet their not
specifically protesting or individually doing anything proactive about it, doesn't mean they don't care.
Most adults are aware there is wrongdoing in this Country and throughout the world going on all the time. Their 'silence ' about it doesn't mean they don't care.
But , here, on this thread there are some who are saying we don't.
Being polite, I find that dismaying.!
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SwingsitlikeHogan
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...and as a result of the OP I asked my daughter the harassment question that I have never before asked, and I got the lowdown on the inappropriate sexual comment (we can call it the harassment that it is) of one form of another that she is subjected to by men almost every day of her life - and has been for ten years or more. And so what do we have - a thread full of male denial - claims of X and Y being lawful (or not criminal) - and in the end - jokes.
SocketRocket
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You are twisting the discussion to suit your own beliefs/agenda.
There have been no jokes and you know it. Some have particular views on the police and the value of a vigil. There have been sensible posts that have been asking questions on what can be done and what can't. To suggest that is Male denial is churlish and acting in the manner you so readily criticise.
No one has suggested Women shouldn't be safe, no one has made light of the death of a young woman. What's wrong with asking people to clarify what they want to happen and how they propose to achieve it. Vague statements like 'Things need to change' are naive and helping no-one.
clubchamp98
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If that’s how it’s going men will be very apprehensive about a defib and women may die unnecessarily.
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