WHS & ISV Issues (Please post only if you are a handicap secretary or involved in admin at your club)

[jim8flog]

I believe the scores will have to be manually entered on to the WHS platform.

What system are you using? If ClubV1, the answer is no according to the release notes (I've not verified this). I would expect other ISVs to be the same, so all the scores will need to be re-entered for WHS.

However, it may be quicker to recreate the comp correctly and re-enter the scores that way, rather than directly into WHS.

Thanks . Information passed on.

We use IG

 

[Swango1980]

Anyone having any issues with howdidido tonight, or Club V1. Club V1 doesn't seem to work, and in howdidido all bookings disappeared, handicap history vanished, almost like I am no longer linked to it. Mate having same problem

 

[rulefan]

No issues here

 

[Swango1980]

No issues here

Ahh, seems to be working again. Maybe a temporary glitch

 

[tobybarker]

We have a member here in Wales who lives in the USA and is as member of a course there too. His HCP there is 5 but here, where he had only 5 or so cards listed, it's 8 point something. How do we set him up so his "correct" HCP is used here ie the 5.? He played here today but howdidido listed him as an 8 handicap player.

 

[Old Skier]

We have a member here in Wales who lives in the USA and is as member of a course there too. His HCP there is 5 but here, where he had only 5 or so cards listed, it's 8 point something. How do we set him up so his "correct" HCP is used here ie the 5.? He played here today but howdidido listed him as an 8 handicap player.

HDID wouldn’t pick up his US handicap as HDID only talks to the clubs software and not the WHS DB. My thoughts would be to adjust his WHS DB to what is assumed as correct and manually adjust his HC on your ISV

 

[tobybarker]

As the committee had not done this before he played, he happily used his local index instead. Was it down to him to self-declare the issue?

 

[rulefan]

We have a member here in Wales who lives in the USA and is as member of a course there too. His HCP there is 5 but here, where he had only 5 or so cards listed, it's 8 point something. How do we set him up so his "correct" HCP is used here ie the 5.? He played here today but howdidido listed him as an 8 handicap player.

Try whs.support@englandgolf.org
They will have encountered similar problems

 

[tobybarker]

Try whs.support@englandgolf.org
They will have encountered similar problems

This is Wales... I'll message the Welsh equivalent

 

[wjemather]

We have a member here in Wales who lives in the USA and is as member of a course there too. His HCP there is 5 but here, where he had only 5 or so cards listed, it's 8 point something. How do we set him up so his "correct" HCP is used here ie the 5.? He played here today but howdidido listed him as an 8 handicap player.

The process is in CONGU's guidance (G1.4b/3). The player should provide you with their handicap record from the US, from which you can enter all 20 most recent scores to recreate his correct handicap. When he goes back to the US, he should do the same so his handicap gets updated there.

 

[Old Skier]

Anyone having any issues with howdidido tonight, or Club V1. Club V1 doesn't seem to work, and in howdidido all bookings disappeared, handicap history vanished, almost like I am no longer linked to it. Mate having same problem

They were doing upgrades this week, we all know what happens when someone upgrades their software

 

[rulefan]

This is Wales... I'll message the Welsh equivalent

oops

 

[NearHull]

The process is in CONGU's guidance (G1.4b/3). The player should provide you with their handicap record from the US, from which you can enter all 20 most recent scores to recreate his correct handicap. When he goes back to the US, he should do the same so his handicap gets updated there.

I have done similar with one of our members who also holds a Portuguese handicap. He physically provides copies of his scoring records each time he moves between countries and we update his records. It’s a bit agricultural but as we know the systems cannot (yet????) communicate seamlessly.

 

[tobybarker]

I have done similar with one of our members who also holds a Portuguese handicap. He physically provides copies of his scoring records each time he moves between countries and we update his records. It’s a bit agricultural but as we know the systems cannot (yet????) communicate seamlessly.

Thanks. Remind me what the W stands for in whs.....

 

[rulefan]

Thanks. Remind me what the W stands for in whs.....

It simply means that the Rules of Handicapping are fundamentally the same round the world.
The utilization of computers is not even mentioned in Rule 1.1 Purpose of the World Handicap System. In fact the whole process could be done by hand except for the PCC.

 

[wjemather]

Thanks. Remind me what the W stands for in whs.....

It means that there is a single method for the calculating handicaps around the world, that is based on the same course and slope rating system. It means players can compare and compete equitably against any other players whose handicaps are produced using that system. It means that handicaps can be easily transferred to anywhere else in the world (that also uses that system), even if the transfer is manual process at present. Etc.

It doesn't mean there is a single global database, or ever will be. It doesn't mean that any individual databases are connected to each other in any way, or ever will be.

 

[Deleted member 30522]

It simply means that the Rules of Handicapping are fundamentally the same round the world.
The utilization of computers is not even mentioned in Rule 1.1 Purpose of the World Handicap System. In fact the whole process could be done by hand except for the PCC.

Except it's 2022, and when coming up with this concept it surely shouldn't have been outwith the scope of the changes to actually do what could easily be done in this day and age?

 

[rulefan]

Except it's 2022, and when coming up with this concept it surely shouldn't have been outwith the scope of the changes to actually do what could easily be done in this day and age?

And who do you think would pay for these relatively few tourists to have this facility?

 

[wjemather]

Except it's 2022, and when coming up with this concept it surely shouldn't have been outwith the scope of the changes to actually do what could easily be done in this day and age?

How would you suggest the authorities should have managed the dozens of different legal jurisdictions with very different data protection laws without delaying implementation by years, if not decades?

 

[Deleted member 30522]

And who do you think would pay for these relatively few tourists to have this facility?

You have one "W"orld system, so it would have actually saved a ton of money over every country doing their own thing.