Orikoru
Tour Winner
Well, yeah. It would have to be someone who is staunchly against the LIV Tour, and someone who doesn't mind knowing they were a back-up option.
Who's going to be RC Captain ?
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i don’t think there is ever going to be any level of scope for a current top level player to take on the role - needs to dedicate a lot of time away from the course
There will still be plenty if Europeans who believe the honour is bigger than the pay packet from LIV
Swango1980
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Liverpoolphil could do it, based on that criteria
Haha, I posted this comment, and when I hit Post saw Liverpoolphil had beat me to it by responding. I'm good at this game.
Swango1980
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There might well be, but who. I'm sure some people might have thought that about Stenson, which proved false. It is impossible to know, until that player receives and refuses a huge offer from LIV. Maybe there are some that have done so, just can't think of any off the top of my head.
sunshine
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Sue them for what?
Sadly I think swango is right, and there’s not much the European tour can do about it. Liv has unlimited cash and and buy just about anyone.
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
Definitely slim(er) pickings for the replacement, although... does the captain have to be from Europe? 
Mel Smooth
Hacker
I wonder if the Tournament Commitee pondered who would be Captain, before they took it off Stenson? Obviously like to think so, but who will take it on? Like Jacklin said - they won't be picking the best players - they'll be picking the players that are eligible.
Jon Rahm made his feelings pretty clear on the matter when discussing his mate Sergio.
Jon Rahm made his feelings pretty clear on the matter when discussing his mate Sergio.
Backsticks
Assistant Pro
I wonder how many defections would it take for them to cancel it ?
At the moment Casey the only Euro that quite possibly would make the team who is ineligible. US team more likely the one that would render it a sham competition next year.
What top Euros are you still expecting or hopeful of getting Mel ?
At the moment Casey the only Euro that quite possibly would make the team who is ineligible. US team more likely the one that would render it a sham competition next year.
What top Euros are you still expecting or hopeful of getting Mel ?
BubbaP
Occasional Player of Golf
Wonder what ol' Samuel Ryder would have thought of all this. Meant to be professionals from different continents playing against each other. Not a pawn being used between rival businesses.
Swango1980
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I always saw it as United States versus European. Regardless of what Tours they played their golf on. I think it is crazy that the Ryder Cup could be severely diminished based on the whole LIV issue. It could have been intriguing. How would pairs be picked. Keep Thomas and Spieth away from Bryson and Brooks in the pairs? McIlroy versus Bryson in singles. It could have been quite an entertaining event.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Totally agree! This is why I thought it was petty for Ryder Cup Europe to remove Stenson. Why should it matter what tour they are on - I thought it was USA vs Europe not USA PGA tour members vs European PGA or European Tour members. In terms of the team selections as well - they might not pick up enough ranking points to qualify automatically by not playing on the requisite tours, but they should still be eligible for a wildcard pick.
Swango1980
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Exactly. It is not as if McIlroy could ever play on the US team because he is a member of the PGA Tour, or some American could come over and play on the European Tour, and represent Europe.
Springveldt
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Are there though? Outside of the younger guys like Rory, Rahm, Fitz etc who else wouldn't turn it down? Do you think if LIV offered Luke Donald £50M to join he would still want the Ryder Cup gig? It would probably need to be someone who isn't playing anymore and more than likely a past captain like McGinley, Faldo, Monty etc
As strange as it sounds maybe LIV has just made the Ryder Cup more competitive again. We just need LIV to sign a few more top American's like Cantlay, Burns, Berger and maybe a Cam Young as well to even out the depth of the teams a little.
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Harry Kane wants to go to Arsenal because they will double his pay but he wants to also come back and play just CL for Spurs - do you think it would be petty for Spurs to say no ?
And the eligibility of who plays in either team is pretty clear for years now - the player needs to be a member of the ET , just being European doesn’t mean they are eligible , if someone isn’t a member of the ET then they don’t get picked - I’m sure you will all remember Casey cancelling his ET membership and Knox not being a member when the 2014/16 RC happened and neither could play
The PGA tour and ET tour are the ones that organise their event
But if he wasn’t a member of the ET ( as some Europeans are ) then he couldn’t be picked - its a known entity
yes I think Donald would turn it down just like Lawrie would , Bjorn , Molinari , Karlsson
Swango1980
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I know this, but it wasn't the point I was making. I was simply highlighting it wasn't just the PGA Tour versus European Tour
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Your football example is just ridiculous so we'll skip over that.
The reason Stenson and others are no longer a member of the ET is because they elected to revoke their membership out of pettiness. Otherwise they would have kept membership to both tours. I still think more will go over to LIV in the next year and the Ryder Cup will have to change their criteria, or face the prospect of a poor competition with 50% of the big names missing.
Springveldt
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You would hope they would but I don't think you can really say one way or the other if they are being offered £50M. That kind of money sets up their families for generations.
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Why skip over it ? The football analogy has been used to justify the players moving to LiV ?
Is it not a case if Stenson wanting the best of both worlds ? Everything suited for him as opposed to what suits the ET Ryder Cup ?
Can you really not see why they wouldn’t want their captain to be involved in what’s essentially right now a rival Tour that’s threatening the ET ? Why on Earth would they allow their Captain to go off to the LiV tour ? The LIV events are at the same time as some ET events - surely the captain should be fully focused on that or the PGA event where some of his players will be playing ?
It’s not petty , it’s not silly - it’s very sensible to remove him from the captaincy - Stenson had a choice , and he picked the money ?, that’s his choice at the end of the day , but he and indeed all the others can’t have their cake on all sides of the fence , they make their choices knowing the potential consequences so it’s now up to them to live with them
And I suspect most of them have already that level of money to set themselves up .
pendodave
Tour Rookie
My guess is that both the US and Euro tours will eventually have to just allow the LIV players to retain membership and everything will just carry on as normal.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Because it was total nonsense. Players are contracted exclusively to their clubs and play in competitions their club qualifies for. Whereas golfers play for themselves and have played whatever events suit them.
The only thing threatening the ET tour is their own attitude at the moment. There's only what, ten LIV events a year?? The ET members who went over would have continued to play a good number of ET events, probably the same handful of events that they always played for the most part.
I'm not knocking any golfer for taking the deal and doing what's best for them. If someone offered me twice my wages and every Friday off I'd probably take it as well.
