Theresa May - Not up to the Job of PM?

[Doon frae Troon]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1072094681226465280

That's hilarious, took me a minute to see the minus


Strong support in Scotland for Ross Thomson as Tory leader.
Unfortunately for him not from the Tory party

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

If she loses it will be because more than half the Tory MPs have voted against her. The 48 or so will have enabled the decision but it needs far more than 48 to get rid of her.

Yes indeed. And is it not absurd that, as a result of the action of these who submitted the letters and triggered the process, we would end up with a small group of unelected and unrepresentative individuals choosing the person to lead our country in this period of national and constitutional crisis. But it does not surprise me that my pointing this out is dismissed with a disdainful and scornful wave...

 

[Hacker Khan]

Stolen from twitter

Wait, I’m confused. The Tory party made her leader. The British people made her PM. Are they now saying they know better than the will of the people? Are they saying party members can change their minds?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I agree that the timing is far from ideal. In fact it’s a crazy time to do it....but hindsight never makes a mistake. It’s patently obvious she doesn’t represent that vast majority of Parliament, and it would appear her own party.

Equally, I think your “unrepresentative” comment is a bit shortsighted. Your MP, Jeremy Hunt, has never represented me, or the constituents of any seat apart from yours. Does that mean he shouldn’t be involved in this issue, or any issue apart from what happens where you are?

The unrepresentative and unelected are the members of the Tory Party. That they are unelected is obvious - and being that small part of the electorate and conservative voters who think it worthwhile paying their subs to be members of the Tory Party, they are also by definition likely to be unrepresentative of conservative voters - never mind the electorate as a whole.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Stolen from twitter

Wait, I’m confused. The Tory party made her leader. The British people made her PM. Are they now saying they know better than the will of the people? Are they saying party members can change their minds?

Ah - they will say - the Tory Party members never got to vote her leader - because the rest ran away...

 

[Doon frae Troon]

The SNP have more party members than the UK Tories, something very far wrong with UKOK politics.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

The SNP have more party members than the UK Tories, something very far wrong with UKOK politics.

What exactly is a “party member “ it’s not really relevant is it

And what the heck is UKOK ?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

What exactly is a “party member “ it’s not really relevant is it

And what the heck is UKOK ?

A party members is a person who is a member of a political party.
UKOK are people who still think that the Union has any prevelense in a modern world.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

A party members is a person who is a member of a political party.

And ? Does it mean anything more than that ? Does it make their vote anything more significant- it has no real relevance to anything does it at the end of the day

UKOK are people who still think that the Union has any prevelense in a modern world.

So it’s another childish silly saying created by someone clearly bitter about the UK being one

 

[Deleted member 1418]

UKOK are people who still think that the Union has any prevelense in a modern world.

I spent the whole of last week in Geneva at the WTO. Believe me enough people there - including representatives from other EU member states - still do.

Another idiotic comment.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

So it’s another childish silly saying created by someone clearly bitter about the UK being one

Being one what

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Being one what

Are those chips on each shoulder weighing down heavy - I don’t think someone could be so bitter as you

One nation Doon as you well know

The UK is United as one hence the Name “United” Kingdom

 

[SocketRocket]

Two wrongs dont make a right.

Absolutely, so is the remain wrong better than the leave wrong.

 

[drdel]

I spent the whole of last week in Geneva at the WTO. Believe me enough people there - including representatives from other EU member states - still do.

Another idiotic comment.

You forget that there are many who are determined to put down the UK despite the fact they enjoy the considerable benefits of being British and envied by many other nations.

 

[Hobbit]

The unrepresentative and unelected are the members of the Tory Party. That they are unelected is obvious - and being that small part of the electorate and conservative voters who think it worthwhile paying their subs to be members of the Tory Party, they are also by definition likely to be unrepresentative of conservative voters - never mind the electorate as a whole.

If you are that concerned, why not join the Tory party, the Labour Party, the LibDems and the SNP. You're scratching at something that isn't worth a second glance.

 

[Imurg]

Well that was a complete waste of time and money.....

 

[chrisd]

Well clearly she IS up to the job as they have said she is 😁

 

[ger147]

117 is a very big number of MP's who voted against her tonight. If they also vote against her deal we are still no further forward...

 

[harpo_72]

Suggests they are not really her type of Tory .. perhaps they should form another party? Oh wait a minute if that happens would it or could become a coalition?
It’s time the tory’s had a purge, get back to one united party ideal ... actually labour should do the same .. might mean the people’s views are captured better.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

If you are that concerned, why not join the Tory party, the Labour Party, the LibDems and the SNP. You're scratching at something that isn't worth a second glance.

I'm not in the slightest bit bothered about the process the Tory Party have in place to elect their party leader - none of my business and good luck to them.

But I was struck by the totally inappropriate timing of what the Johnson and the ERG instigated and the absurdity of what the outcome could have been, given where we are and the utterly crucial role of the PM trying to get an agreement that might have even the vaguest of hopes of starting to heal the terrible wounds and division splitting the country top to bottom.

And if things had gone the way of the anti-May brigade we could have ended up with an electorate of 124,000 choosing such as Rees-Mogg or Johnson as PM - and IMO that would almost certainly have exacerbated the situation, and still would were it to happen.