Theresa May - Not up to the Job of PM?

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Serious concerns raised by the European Central Bank that a No Deal Brexit will seriously damage the individual EU country banks. Both France and Germany have trillions in U.K. investments and derivatives that have contract ends dates after Brexit day.

The EU is hurriedly putting together laws and financial instruments that will allow shifting of the contracts before Brexit day. However, concerns around breaches of contract could lead to court action.

The EU Commission has also said that any country’s banks that hasn’t moved their investments by Brexit day will not receive any concessions or assistance from the ECB.


Is this in the right thread?.... but if you analyse the ECB, instruments held in the UK is only one of their worries.... follow a chain if who owes who how much! Hence your other remark about "when to jump"
 
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I would be willing to bet that if a new pm removed the red line re movement of people, there would be a willingness from the EU to negotiate a better deal.
 

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Usual suspects gather round and attack SILH for stating the obvious. Yes I know that this is how we choose PMs - but at this point and in this chaos we hand the decision on who will lead us through this chaos to a small group of people who have paid to be members of the Tory party. Now that's such a sensible way to choose someone to somehow try and unite the country.
 

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Usual suspects gather round and attack SILH for stating the obvious. Yes I know that this is how we choose PMs - but at this point and in this chaos we hand the decision on who will lead us through this chaos to a small group of people who have paid to be members of the Tory party. Now that's such a sensible way to choose someone to somehow try and unite the country.
It is the same for all parties, not just the Tory's.
 

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Indeed it is. But the point is that this is not the time to do this - if she loses then 48 or so MPs will be handing the choice of leadership of the country through this critical period to a small and totally unrepresentative group of people.

Go to it Theresa. Put them in their place.
 

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Indeed it is. But the point is that this is not the time to do this - if she loses then 48 or so MPs will be handing the choice of leadership of the country through this critical period to a small and totally unrepresentative group of people.

Go to it Theresa. Put them in their place.

So you now think she is up to the job and want to rescind everything you have said about her inability to do the job of PM over the last 2 years?

At least have the courage and integrity to stick to your convictions that she is not fit for the job of PM...
 
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Usual suspects gather round and attack SILH for stating the obvious. Yes I know that this is how we choose PMs - but at this point and in this chaos we hand the decision on who will lead us through this chaos to a small group of people who have paid to be members of the Tory party. Now that's such a sensible way to choose someone to somehow try and unite the country.

But look on the bright side, if Teresa May is indeed ousted as PM, the Tory party would've delivered the whole point of this thread!!

And then you'll be able to start another one the moment the new PM is appointed entitled '[Name] - not up the job of PM?'!!

Happy Days for you - will keep your post count ticking over quite nicely! ;)
 

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Oooh, can we play Top Trumps???

I'll go first. Category, 'Level of delusion'.
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See this just reinforces your lack of understanding.

We are not negotiating a TRADE DEAL, it's just the withdrawal terms. Once that is or is not done actually agreeing the trade deal itself with the EU should be pretty simple as we already trade with each other.

This is the problem the average joe doesn't understand one side of it or the other. They believe what they read in The Sun, Mirror, Mail, Guardian etc, post it online on forums and social media and other idiots believe it too.
 

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Indeed it is. But the point is that this is not the time to do this - if she loses then 48 or so MPs will be handing the choice of leadership of the country through this critical period to a small and totally unrepresentative group of people.

Go to it Theresa. Put them in their place.

If she loses it will be because more than half the Tory MPs have voted against her. The 48 or so will have enabled the decision but it needs far more than 48 to get rid of her.
 

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The more this goes on, the more I feel for May. Her job is stupidly hard and she is in a complete no win situation. ALL the politicians are putting their own power hungry agenda's first and they are all an utter shambles.

Seems to be a reoccurring theme a lot nowadays in politics. I can't help thinking there are some good eggs who genuinely are in it for the good of their constituents. Our local Labour MP used to be like that, he'd never get a cabinet job in a month of Sundays but he was great for the people he represented. Trouble is those types are never ruthless/ambitious/amoral/desperate enough to climb the greasy pole. I think our current Labour MP is a Corbyn acolyte and has lost a good share of the vote.
 

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Indeed it is. But the point is that this is not the time to do this - if she loses then 48 or so MPs will be handing the choice of leadership of the country through this critical period to a small and totally unrepresentative group of people.

Go to it Theresa. Put them in their place.

I agree that the timing is far from ideal. In fact it’s a crazy time to do it....but hindsight never makes a mistake. It’s patently obvious she doesn’t represent that vast majority of Parliament, and it would appear her own party.

Equally, I think your “unrepresentative” comment is a bit shortsighted. Your MP, Jeremy Hunt, has never represented me, or the constituents of any seat apart from yours. Does that mean he shouldn’t be involved in this issue, or any issue apart from what happens where you are?
 
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Our government is a complete embarrassment to the world , they spend more time squabbling with each other and forget that they are there to look after the country for us - they have had two years to get all this sorted and here we are they are still fighting between themselves over who should be leader.

The lot should be gotten rid off and let the Queen run the country - at least she would try and do it in the best interests of the population and not of herself

They are a complete joke
 

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I agree that the timing is far from ideal. In fact it’s a crazy time to do it....but hindsight never makes a mistake. It’s patently obvious she doesn’t represent that vast majority of Parliament, and it would appear her own party.

Equally, I think your “unrepresentative” comment is a bit shortsighted. Your MP, Jeremy Hunt, has never represented me, or the constituents of any seat apart from yours. Does that mean he shouldn’t be involved in this issue, or any issue apart from what happens where you are?

At this current point in time who the hell does? On either side? I suppose at least in the US where they have lurched to opposite sides of the political spectrum they are mostly consistent in their views in each party. Our lot can't even mange that so you have no idea what the party view is. I mean the absolute state of these two...
 

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The more this goes on, the more I feel for May. Her job is stupidly hard and she is in a complete no win situation. ALL the politicians are putting their own power hungry agenda's first and they are all an utter shambles.

I would not feel sorry for a PM who tried to by pass and then misled Parliament over the most crucial decision the UK has made in three generations.
 

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I would not feel sorry for a PM who tried to by pass and then misled Parliament over the most crucial decision the UK has made in three generations.

My angle was that whichever of our wonderful political parties/politicians would have done this job, they would have failed. Yet everyone pounces on her because they have their own political agendas to persue. Don't for one minute think that any of them have our best interests at heart.
 

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My angle was that whichever of our wonderful political parties/politicians would have done this job, they would have failed. Yet everyone pounces on her because they have their own political agendas to persue. Don't for one minute think that any of them have our best interests at heart.

Think she had an almost impossible task to begin with, that became utterly impossible once she held a snap election, tried to steamroller Brexit though without any parliamentary scrutiny at the start, she announced her arguably ill conceived red lines and invoked article 50 too early.
 
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