Theresa May - Not up to the Job of PM?

[Deleted Member 1156]

I think Hunt will be the only acceptable candidate.
Whatever happens, after the next general election, the Tories will not see power again for many years.
Time for a new 'sensible' party to kick in, appealing to the centre based Labour and Tory voters. [ie the vast majority.]

May rebuffed straight away on her EU trip, what a waste of time

I think Corbyn is even worse than May! With him in charge I can't see Labour getting voted in.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

She can NOT remain as PM if she is not the leader of the Tories. Conservative party rules do not allow this.

Thanks for the correction. We need to mention this to the Tory MP speaking on R5 this morning who came out with it then .

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

I've got a funny feeling that the Tories will vote in a Remainer type who will renegotiate the UK to follow everything the EU wants then everyone will be happy. Won't they?

Yeah, there will only be a mere 17.4m who wouldn't be happy with that.

 

[ger147]

Thanks for the correction. We need to mention this to the Tory MP speaking on R5 this morning who came out with it then .

I'm not responsible for what Tory MP's say, just pointing out their own party rules means it cannot happen, rules which were introduced in 1998. Maybe they've been too busy fighting amongst themselves to read them up till now...

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Yeah, there will only be a mere 17.4m who wouldn't be happy with that.

Still a minority of the est 55m in the uk though.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Still a minority of the est 55m in the uk though.

Then they should have got off their backsides and voted.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I'm not responsible for what Tory MP's say, just pointing out their own party rules means it cannot happen, rules which were introduced in 1998. Maybe they've been too busy fighting amongst themselves to read them up till now...

I agree, I was not being sarky hence the smillie. R5 had Tory MP after Tory MP on this morning and one of them came out with this. I took him at his word, how foolish of me.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

I agree, I was not being sarky hence the smillie. R5 had Tory MP after Tory MP on this morning and one of them came out with this. I took him at his word, how foolish of me.

😂😂 @ LT

I hope this is a reminder to never believe a word a Tory MP says 😀

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Then they should have got off their backsides and voted.

Those that never voted can't be blamed for not Voting when a leave campaign was based on lies.

 

[MegaSteve]

Well, I think she forgot her manners this morning...

 

[Lord Tyrion]

😂😂 @ LT

I hope this is a reminder to never believe a word a Tory MP says 😀

I know, I'm ashamed of myself .

 

[Dando]

Those that never voted can't be blamed for not Voting when a leave campaign was based on lies.

So who is to blame for them not voting?
Both sides lied!

 

[Beezerk]

BJ is bookies favourite to land the hot seat from what I gather.
Stay classy 🤔

 

[Dando]

Then they should have got off their backsides and voted.

but is was raining!

 

[Colonel Bogey]

I don't get the "we weren't informed" arguements. Wasn't there a big long debate(s) over all the original vote?

And "Yeah, there will only be a mere 17.4m who wouldn't be happy with that." I also don't get why the MP's are all against it all (coming out) when the public voted out???? Very puzzling????? and don't get me started on the backstop. i'd of thought it would be awesome for NI. Brown envelopes flying everywhere.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

BJ is bookies favourite to land the hot seat from what I gather.
Stay classy 🤔

His problem is that it is the MP's who whittle away the candidates until the final 2. He has alienated a lot of MP's and so, like last time, may not reach the last 2. If it was open to the membership then he probably would win but he may not get that far.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Those that never voted can't be blamed for not Voting when a leave campaign was based on lies.

That is a totally pointless argument, in this day and age of press, internet, TV debates etc there was plenty of information available for people to make up their minds.

And if you do want to use that argument then what about all the rubbish being spouted by Remainers?

#ProjectFear

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Mayhem - but May Must Stay

And so - in a time of chaos initiated and exacerbated by Tory Party infighting over Europe - the Tory Party indulge themselves in further infighting. Infighting based upon a delusion that a new PM will (not may - will) be able to negotiate a 'better' Withdrawal Agreement.

If there is one thing that May succeeded in doing yesterday, and that should now be clear to all - with not just the leading players in the EU telling us - but the Prime Ministers and leading ministers of many European countries also telling us - there will no better Withdrawal Deal. There may be clarifications but there will absolutely be no further negotiations - what is on the table is all that is and will be on offer - there could never be an WA that did not have a backstop as now agreed.

And yet the ideological anti-EU deludes in the ERG and beyond of the Tory Party continue to maintain that a better WA can be had - that Prime Ministers of European countries will allow themselves to be made to look indecisive, weak and stupid by allowing the EU to cave into pressure from the UK - because it would suit the UK.

They were deluded that we could leave the EU without there being chaos - they remain deluded.

For the sake of the country and as useless as she may be - May Must Stay.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Mayhem - but May Must Stay

And so - in a time of chaos initiated and exacerbated by Tory Party infighting over Europe - the Tory Party indulge themselves in further infighting. Infighting based upon a delusion that a new PM will (not may - will) be able to negotiate a 'better' Withdrawal Agreement.

If there is one thing that May succeeded in doing yesterday, and that should now be clear to all - with not just the leading players in the EU telling us - but the Prime Ministers and leading ministers of many European countries also telling us - there will no better Withdrawal Deal. There may be clarifications but there will absolutely be no further negotiations - what is on the table is all that is and will be on offer - there could never be an WA that did not have a backstop as now agreed.

And yet the ideological anti-EU deludes in the ERG and beyond of the Tory Party continue to maintain that a better WA can be had - that Prime Ministers of European countries will allow themselves to be made to look indecisive, weak and stupid by allowing the EU to cave into pressure from the UK - because it would suit the UK.

They were deluded that we could leave the EU without there being chaos - they remain deluded.

For the sake of the country and as useless as she may be - May Must Stay.

So as I read your post, you are saying it is OK for the EU leaders to get what they want but not for the UK to get what we want?
And you want to remain part of this organisation?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Or John Redwood. Now that would be a shock but if they, the Tories, want to honour the vote, the referendum, he would be the man to pick. Gove and boris are wimps

We truly would be in a mess, and very weird place, if that guy was PM.

If there is such a thing as an 'anti-EU lunatic fringe' of the Tory Party then he is a fully paid up member of it. You just have to listen to him discourse as he did in his most perfect 'swivel-eyed loon' (courtesy of David Cameron) way last night on Newsnight to know that. Not a hope he'll become PM (I pray).