The SNIP

[IanM]

My company has put a tender in for the rebranding of the SFP.

I thought it was the Irish Republic they wanted to join.

 

[patricks148]

Best answer - because there are so many flying midges (Latin: Midgus Ferocius) up there (they stop at the border) that they are only repelled by the national flag.
Now we're getting somewhere. The SNP want Indyref2 in 2020.
Bring it on. I'd also like it rolled out to the rest of the UK to see if we want them.

are you on drugs???

 

[Dando]

are you on drugs???

After reading his other ramblings I believe he his

 

[Foxholer]

Genetic surveys are statistical. Humans are 98% gorilla, 70% banana and so on. But very small genetic traits can lead to big differences. Jews and Muslims share a virtually identical genome, yet look at the trouble it has caused. Jerusalem means the city of peace, which is hard to believe.
For an English person trying to understand the Scots is not easy. Why do they hardly fly the union flag? Why do the Campbell's and Macdonald's still dislike each other? Why is the clan system so important?
You don't get the annual football match between Scotland and England now partly because of security and health and safety fears.
Personally I'm all in favour of Scottish independence. I want to see how they get on without a major airport or seaport and the only road border is with England. I want to see how they get on with a currency which is regulated by the Bank of England.
If the SNP are so pro-European then why don't they want to join the Eurozone? What would their immigration policy look like to non EU nationals? Would their weather improve?

More utter, potentially dangerous, twaddle!

Go get your meds dosages re-assessed!

 

[drdel]

Sturgeon's logic just escapes me. The UK leaves the EU, sometime.

Scotland decides to leave the UK and crawls of to the EU. I wonder how that would pan out?

Assuming they eventually joined the EU and no longer use the pound etc etc. What then?

I'm sure the SNP have the answer, but I'm sure I have no idea .

 

[KenL]

Any old rubbish.
Good god man .........it's a live feed from Westminster.

The rubbish is what the independence side will use to support their selfish cause.

If I were in Westminster I would be walking out when that wind bag spouted the same boring rubbish for the thousandth time.

 

[Fade and Die]

are you on drugs???

No he’s off the meds!🤪

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Sturgeon's logic just escapes me. The UK leaves the EU, sometime.

Scotland decides to leave the UK and crawls of to the EU. I wonder how that would pan out?

Assuming they eventually joined the EU and no longer use the pound etc etc. What then?

I'm sure the SNP have the answer, but I'm sure I have no idea .

I love the 'crawls back to the EU' bit. Nae spin there at a.
You seem to have forgotten that it is English right wing nationalist voters who are forcing Scotland out of the EU against their voters wishes. [just a wee bit of spin there]
Mind you ….you are correct in saying you have no idea.

 

[SocketRocket]

I love the 'crawls back to the EU' bit. Nae spin there at a.
You seem to have forgotten that it is English right wing nationalist voters who are forcing Scotland out of the EU against their voters wishes. [just a wee bit of spin there]
Mind you ….you are correct in saying you have no idea.

Et Tu Brute. The referendum was decided on a UK vote not Scottish only, on your reckoning 30% of Scottish voters were Right Wing Nationalists also.most of Wales voted leave. More than a sporran full of spin there Doom.

 

[drdel]

I love the 'crawls back to the EU' bit. Nae spin there at a.
You seem to have forgotten that it is English right wing nationalist voters who are forcing Scotland out of the EU against their voters wishes. [just a wee bit of spin there]
Mind you ….you are correct in saying you have no idea.

I see you're more concerned about one word 'crawls' than addressing the content.

At the present Scotland is in the UK - the UK voted; its the democratic way; it works by majority

You may have seen the reports that the EU believe it highly unlikely Scotland would be allowed to join.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Piffle.
I haven't seen your 'unlikely' reports but I have seen plenty that say Scotland would be welcomed back into the EU.
Mind you that will only happen if the UK leave in the first place.

 

[Grant85]

You may have seen the reports that the EU believe it highly unlikely Scotland would be allowed to join.

Would be amazed to see these reports. I see that you have linked them as they must be so readily available.

There are literally no reports or credible sources saying iScotland would not be able to join the EU.

The best the Brit Nats can come up with are 'Scotland will be out of the EU and it might take a while to get back in... oh and you might need to join the Euro'.

Reality is that iScotland would be very welcome in the EU. There is a huge amount of goodwill in the EU for Scotland and they would easily meet the criteria for membership which would likely be teed up after a Yes vote, prior to legal independence day.

 

[lobthewedge]

Would be amazed to see these reports. I see that you have linked them as they must be so readily available.

There are literally no reports or credible sources saying iScotland would not be able to join the EU.

The best the Brit Nats can come up with are 'Scotland will be out of the EU and it might take a while to get back in... oh and you might need to join the Euro'.

Reality is that iScotland would be very welcome in the EU. There is a huge amount of goodwill in the EU for Scotland and they would easily meet the criteria for membership which would likely be teed up after a Yes vote, prior to legal independence day.

I think you are right, the Eu would probably accept an independent Scotland back into the fold, but reckon we would have to ditch the pound and a take on the Euro.

However, this is the logic that baffles me with many SNP/YES supporters. Why are they so keen to throw off the bonds of Westminster and England only to tie themselves up even more tightly with the EU and Brussels? You are surely swapping one overlord for another, and giving up more controls to a governing body even further away from you both geographically and culturally? I don't get it?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Probably because at Glencoe it was Irish (Campbell's) v Scots (Macdonald's).

The name Sturgeon is an English name for a fishmonger.
Just as fishy, Salmond is also most recently an English name.
England the brave!

Q: Which of these did the Scots invent?
The kilt, the bagpipes, the haggis.
A: none.

You didn't mention that we never invented golf either...

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I didnt know there was such a thing as a 'flag flying gene' or even a 'flag burning gene'. Well, you live and learn

But there may be a 'flag wrapping' gene

 

[drdel]

After the first stay-in UK vote there's a world of difference in an independent Scotland staying in the EU (as viewed in 2013/14) compared to post Brexit: as an external country, Scotland, applying to join afresh.

EU's report is interesting, summarised by the BBC https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-49690513

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

After the first stay-in UK vote there's a world of difference in an independent Scotland staying in the EU (as viewed in 2013/14) compared to post Brexit: as an external country, Scotland, applying to join afresh.

EU's report is interesting, summarised by the BBC https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-49690513

I'm not sure how that article supports your statement (on basis of a quick read)

You may have seen the reports that the EU believe it highly unlikely Scotland would be allowed to join.

In fact is seems that the EU would be much more accommodating of a request from an independent Scotland that it would have been in 2014? Yes - some strict conditions - but not dismissive of, or likely to reject, any such request.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

After the first stay-in UK vote there's a world of difference in an independent Scotland staying in the EU (as viewed in 2013/14) compared to post Brexit: as an external country, Scotland, applying to join afresh.

EU's report is interesting, summarised by the BBC https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-49690513

Nope, I can't see one mention of 'unlikely' there.
I wonder how long it took you to find that one link.
You will need to scratch a bit deeper

 

[SocketRocket]

But there may be a 'flag wrapping' gene

I think that falls well into the 'Flag Waving' category anyway.

 

[SocketRocket]

I'm not sure how that article supports your statement (on basis of a quick read)

You may have seen the reports that the EU believe it highly unlikely Scotland would be allowed to join.

In fact is seems that the EU would be much more accommodating of a request from an independent Scotland that it would have been in 2014? Yes - some strict conditions - but not dismissive of, or likely to reject, any such request.

Why would the EU want another basket ecconomy to support, especially with the funding from England lost.