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Perhaps you need to look a bit deeper into what you said, remembering that the SNP wish to gain Independence for Scotland.:unsure:
Why should they give a stuff about what happens to rUK after Brexit as the rUK could not give a stuff about the result of the Scottish Brexit vote.

The Brexit vote was across the entire UK and NOT regionally. There were many areas who voted remain but it was never a referendum to be decided anything other than IN or OUT and you know that, just as the Scottish independence referendum was a straight vote - but, of course democracy doesnt count any more 😣
 

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Perhaps you need to look a bit deeper into what you said, remembering that the SNP wish to gain Independence for Scotland.:unsure:
Why should they give a stuff about what happens to rUK after Brexit as the rUK could not give a stuff about the result of the Scottish Brexit vote.

Blah blah blah.
Perhaps you need to understand the referendum was for the whole of the uk and there was no “Scottish brexit vote.”
Maybe you’ll get another “once in a lifetime“ vote on independence and if leave win then hopefully you’ll stop behaving like a petulant child.
 

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The Brexit vote was across the entire UK and NOT regionally. There were many areas who voted remain but it was never a referendum to be decided anything other than IN or OUT and you know that, just as the Scottish independence referendum was a straight vote - but, of course democracy doesnt count any more 😣

Ok in simple terms...……...if you are Scottish and want independence the result of the UK Brexit vote is totally irrelevant.
Do you think that independence supporters would stop wanting independence if Remain had won and we were still being ruled by May's rag tag government.:unsure:
UK democracy is not an issue or debate so it obviously does not matter.
 

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Ok in simple terms...……...if you are Scottish and want independence the result of the UK Brexit vote is totally irrelevant.
Do you think that independence supporters would stop wanting independence if Remain had won and we were still being ruled by May's rag tag government.:unsure:
UK democracy is not an issue or debate so it obviously does not matter.

My original point was that the politicians are using Brexit and the shenanigans going on in government to further their own ambitions without a care for the UK as a whole. Labour will only do this, Liberals only that, and your lot will only support the Labour position IF they promise another leave vote will be allowed. Surely this horse trading shows that the country, including Scotland, is just being run by self serving arse wipes and they should all be ashamed of themselves
 

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In Indref1 52% voted to stay within the UK.

Correction - 55.3% voted to remain as a part of the UK. Many regions of Scotland voted much more strongly to remain. Only the cities of Glasgow & Dundee were in favour of separation.

I certainly don't hate "the English" but I do hate with a passion the SNP. Pure poison!
 
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Protocol determines a PM should listen to 2 speakers after he has spoken, not up and leave. BJ showing disprespect for office again. SNP have form for walking out themselves of course so not defending Blackford who I do find a bit tedious.

Just whole thing's a laughing stock and childish -Tory's walking out ahead of SNP rep speaking just reinforces division amongst the public, so although it may be 'funny' it also plays into the SNP cause as it may tip a few more SNPs way. Given the 13 Tory MPs they have up here who kept May/Tories in power in 2017 and are on very shaky ground come another GE, perhaps the Tory MPs could be more tactful?:unsure:
 

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Protocol determines a PM should listen to 2 speakers after he has spoken, not up and leave. BJ showing disprespect for office again. SNP have form for walking out themselves of course so not defending Blackford who I do find a bit tedious.

Just whole thing's a laughing stock and childish -Tory's walking out ahead of SNP rep speaking just reinforces division amongst the public, so although it may be 'funny' it also plays into the SNP cause as it may tip a few more SNPs way. Given the 13 Tory MPs they have up here who kept May/Tories in power in 2017 and are on very shaky ground come another GE, perhaps the Tory MPs could be more tactful?:unsure:
I think right now we need a factory reset from ALL MP's regarding behaviour. The whole set up is toxic and I don't know that any side comes out with any credit. How we get that reset without something awful happening I don't know.
 

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It seems to me that in the ROW it's the people who are protesting at what the government are doing but here it's the government who are protesting over what the people have voted for :ROFLMAO:
 

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You are wrong in so many of those suppositions, you don't seem to understand the results of genetic surveys and how they show a very close relationship between all the people of Britain and Ireland. Your comments also have a similarity to those used in the past to suggest certain gene pools created races with specific human attributes. This type of belief is dangerous and wrong.

Genetic surveys are statistical. Humans are 98% gorilla, 70% banana and so on. But very small genetic traits can lead to big differences. Jews and Muslims share a virtually identical genome, yet look at the trouble it has caused. Jerusalem means the city of peace, which is hard to believe.
For an English person trying to understand the Scots is not easy. Why do they hardly fly the union flag? Why do the Campbell's and Macdonald's still dislike each other? Why is the clan system so important?
You don't get the annual football match between Scotland and England now partly because of security and health and safety fears.
Personally I'm all in favour of Scottish independence. I want to see how they get on without a major airport or seaport and the only road border is with England. I want to see how they get on with a currency which is regulated by the Bank of England.
If the SNP are so pro-European then why don't they want to join the Eurozone? What would their immigration policy look like to non EU nationals? Would their weather improve?
 

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Genetic surveys are statistical. Humans are 98% gorilla, 70% banana and so on. But very small genetic traits can lead to big differences. Jews and Muslims share a virtually identical genome, yet look at the trouble it has caused. Jerusalem means the city of peace, which is hard to believe.
For an English person trying to understand the Scots is not easy. Why do they hardly fly the union flag? Why do the Campbell's and Macdonald's still dislike each other? Why is the clan system so important?
You don't get the annual football match between Scotland and England now partly because of security and health and safety fears.
Personally I'm all in favour of Scottish independence. I want to see how they get on without a major airport or seaport and the only road border is with England. I want to see how they get on with a currency which is regulated by the Bank of England.
If the SNP are so pro-European then why don't they want to join the Eurozone? What would their immigration policy look like to non EU nationals? Would their weather improve?

LOL - really?
 

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LOL - really?
Probably because at Glencoe it was Irish (Campbell's) v Scots (Macdonald's).

The name Sturgeon is an English name for a fishmonger.
Just as fishy, Salmond is also most recently an English name.
England the brave!

Q: Which of these did the Scots invent?
The kilt, the bagpipes, the haggis.
A: none.
 

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Genetic surveys are statistical. Humans are 98% gorilla, 70% banana and so on. But very small genetic traits can lead to big differences. Jews and Muslims share a virtually identical genome, yet look at the trouble it has caused. Jerusalem means the city of peace, which is hard to believe.
For an English person trying to understand the Scots is not easy. Why do they hardly fly the union flag? Why do the Campbell's and Macdonald's still dislike each other? Why is the clan system so important?
You don't get the annual football match between Scotland and England now partly because of security and health and safety fears.
Personally I'm all in favour of Scottish independence. I want to see how they get on without a major airport or seaport and the only road border is with England. I want to see how they get on with a currency which is regulated by the Bank of England.
If the SNP are so pro-European then why don't they want to join the Eurozone? What would their immigration policy look like to non EU nationals? Would their weather improve?
I didnt know there was such a thing as a 'flag flying gene' or even a 'flag burning gene'. Well, you live and learn :rolleyes:
 

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I didnt know there was such a thing as a 'flag flying gene'
Best answer - because there are so many flying midges (Latin: Midgus Ferocius) up there (they stop at the border) that they are only repelled by the national flag.
Now we're getting somewhere. The SNP want Indyref2 in 2020.
Bring it on. I'd also like it rolled out to the rest of the UK to see if we want them.
 

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Best answer - because there are so many flying midges (Latin: Midgus Ferocius) up there (they stop at the border) that they are only repelled by the national flag.
Now we're getting somewhere. The SNP want Indyref2 in 2020.
Bring it on. I'd also like it rolled out to the rest of the UK to see if we want them.

Who are 'we'.
 
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