The SNIP

[Fade and Die]

I didn't open the link, but now I have. yes it is hilarious. Nicola took it in her stride though.
She was well protected in those days with all her hair spray.

I notice you and a few others do not seem to disagree with the SNP's political record in relation to other UK political parties.
Just the usual tired old anti Scottish rubbish from the usual suspects on here.

Not Anti-Scottish Loon just Anti SNP👍

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Not Anti-Scottish Loon just Anti SNP👍

If that was the case then why don't they say so.
Mind you it's good to know that at least someone on here knows the difference.

 

[Hobbit]

If that was the case then why don't they say so.
Mind you it's good to know that at least someone on here knows the difference.

I'm not anti-SNP, nor anti-independence. If you look back just a few pages you'll see I actually like the SNP socialist policies but I also questioned their affordability. And I also said I have no problem with independence in that post.

My argument at the last referendum was about the lies the SNP tell when it comes to finance. The GERS report since then has supported that argument, and the link I posted up earlier today also shows the mess the Scottish NHS is in. Its the lies they tell, just like all the parties, that I dislike.

Posting up their own propaganda, which is so easily shown to be inaccurate, doesn't make it them a bad party when it comes to their ambitions but it does when it shows their credibility is on thin ice.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I'm not anti-SNP, nor anti-independence. If you look back just a few pages you'll see I actually like the SNP socialist policies but I also questioned their affordability. And I also said I have no problem with independence in that post.

My argument at the last referendum was about the lies the SNP tell when it comes to finance. The GERS report since then has supported that argument, and the link I posted up earlier today also shows the mess the Scottish NHS is in. Its the lies they tell, just like all the parties, that I dislike.

Posting up their own propaganda, which is so easily shown to be inaccurate, doesn't make it them a bad party when it comes to their ambitions but it does when it shows their credibility is on thin ice.

You must be the only person left in the UK that still thinks GERS has any relevance
If you think otherwise why is there not a GERE.

 

[Hobbit]

You must be the only person left in the UK that still thinks GERS has any relevance
If you think otherwise why is there not a GERE.

I notice you never accept anything that says anything whatsoever that doesn't coincide with your beliefs. How about telling me why GERS isn't relevant - don't just post up some warped SNP propaganda, post something up that's independent. And how about the BBC link I posted up about the Scottish NHS performance, inc the Head of the BMA's comment? Is that not relevant either? Or does your paranoia stretch as far as the Beeb and the Head of the BMA?

C'mon Doon, post something independent for a change instead of Wings and SNP literature.

 

[lobthewedge]

I notice you and a few others do not seem to disagree with the SNP's political record in relation to other UK political parties.
Just the usual tired old anti Scottish rubbish from the usual suspects on here.

I love being scottish and I love being british, the two sit side by side with me and coexist quite happily.

I hate what the SNP stand for and are trying to do to my country. I have experienced first hand the hatred and division that some elements of the snp and yes movement promote.

Some SNP policies while being well intentioned verge on fantasy and are clearly unaffordable. Something scotland would find out very quickly and painfully should the day come we are cut adrift from the uk.

Personally, I pay more tax than my English workmates on the exact same wage, while I see no improvement in our NHS or education over the rest of the uk. Spout whatever statistics at me you want, I won't read them as I prefer to know and trust what I see on a daily basis.

Westminster is a basket case and uk politics is in a very sorry state at present. But far from being part of the solution, wee nicola and the snp are visibly revelling in it, and are an embarrassment to a large number of Scots.

I just wish we had someone or something worthy to vote for up here.

Finally, I don't think people on here are anti Scottish, they are anti doon and the bile you spread on here.

 

[Hobbit]

I love being scottish and I love being british, the two sit side by side with me and coexist quite happily.

I hate what the SNP stand for and are trying to do to my country. I have experienced first hand the hatred and division that some elements of the snp and yes movement promote.

Some SNP policies while being well intentioned verge on fantasy and are clearly unaffordable. Something scotland would find out very quickly and painfully should the day come we are cut adrift from the uk.

Personally, I pay more tax than my English workmates on the exact same wage, while I see no improvement in our NHS or education over the rest of the uk. Spout whatever statistics at me you want, I won't read them as I prefer to know and trust what I see on a daily basis.

Westminster is a basket case and uk politics is in a very sorry state at present. But far from being part of the solution, wee nicola and the snp are visibly revelling in it, and are an embarrassment to a large number of Scots.

I just wish we had someone or something worthy to vote for up here.

Finally, I don't think people on here are anti Scottish, they are anti you and the bile you spread on here.

I'm not anti-Doon but I deplore his hypocrisy. He posts up thinly veiled anti-English stuff, then defends it by saying "but my wife his English." And when someone bites back at him in a similar vein he cries crocodile tears and "wolf, wolf, wolf."

Most of the time he's on ignore because he won't debate. His standard response, like today, is along the lines of its all lies. His response to the GERS report today; the GERS report is compiled by the Scottish govt, a govt led by the SNP. Yet I'm the only person that believes it relevant. Maybe he should let Nicola know she's wasting tax payers money in having it compiled.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I notice you never accept anything that says anything whatsoever that doesn't coincide with your beliefs. How about telling me why GERS isn't relevant - don't just post up some warped SNP propaganda, post something up that's independent. And how about the BBC link I posted up about the Scottish NHS performance, inc the Head of the BMA's comment? Is that not relevant either? Or does your paranoia stretch as far as the Beeb and the Head of the BMA?

C'mon Doon, post something independent for a change instead of Wings and SNP literature.

Gers is based on Scotland living under the financial and political rule of a UK government. Carrying a huge amount of UK National debt and paying towards the likes of HS2, London Crosslink Railway, Trident, the Heathrow expansion, the pomp and circumstance of Westminster, Royalty, armed forces and many more things that are of low if not no advantage to our Country.

An Independent Scotland would be an entirely different scenario, not one based on Scotland's response to skewed Westminster government questions.

BTW1...Why do you constantly choose to dodge my question as to the absence of an English version of GERS.Is it too hard to answer.
BTW 2.. SNP Health list was a list of achievements [ie things that they have actually accomplished] in the 11 years they were in power, not 20 years you quote and NOT a made up propaganda wish list.

A wee bit of alternative reading for you
https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog...ot-generate-60-of-the-uks-net-fiscal-deficit/
Seemingly Wales, Scotland and NI are responsible for 150% of the UK debt.

 

[ColchesterFC]

Gers is based on Scotland living under the financial and political rule of a UK government. Carrying a huge amount of UK National debt and paying towards the likes of HS2, London Crosslink Railway, Trident, the Heathrow expansion, the pomp and circumstance of Westminster, Royalty, armed forces and many more things that are of low if not no advantage to our Country.

An Independent Scotland would be an entirely different scenario, not one based on Scotland's response to skewed Westminster government questions.

Are you suggesting that an independent Scotland wouldn't require its own armed forces and would ditch the Royal Family?

 

[HughJars]

Tell me about it, try living up here!

I live "up here", I've also lived "down there". There's no "us & them" running through the SNP, however down there it is often very apparent.

 

[HughJars]

The standard of information and "debate" on show here is appalling. Clearly most haven't the first clue about Scotland outwith the dribblings of right wing fleet street. It's rather embarrassing to read people who seem on the surface intelligent, coming out with such nonsense.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Are you suggesting that an independent Scotland wouldn't require its own armed forces and would ditch the Royal Family?

No, just a greatly reduced force, fit for a small modern European country like Norway and not one that acts as the worlds police.
I would imagine most Scots would still like to have a King/Queen but not one who 'rules over us'. Again greatly reducing the expenditure akin to a small European country like Denmark.

 

[spongebob59]

Ruth Davidson

@RuthDavidsonMSP
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Not sure this was the reception Nicola Sturgeon was expecting in Germany today - Der Spiegel calling her out as a hollow populist blaming Westminster for everything, referencing the Salmond trial & even the
@JournoStephen
sacking affair. https://spon.de/afyUr via
@SPIEGELONLINE

 

[HughJars]

Ruth Davidson
@RuthDavidsonMSP
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6h

Not sure this was the reception Nicola Sturgeon was expecting in Germany today - Der Spiegel calling her out as a hollow populist blaming Westminster for everything, referencing the Salmond trial & even the
@JournoStephen
sacking affair. https://spon.de/afyUr via
@SPIEGELONLINE

Daisley & Davidson. Well with two such balanced commenters, you've won me over

 

[Foxholer]

https://www.snp.org/record/
Scroll down to health info.

As a whole Is this not a record that any Tory/ Labour/ Brexit/ Lib Dem/ UKIP party in England/Wales would die for.

 

[Foxholer]

...outwith...

Always makes me smile when I see that used!

 

[Doon frae Troon]

https://politics-punked.com/2019/10...ish-independence-is-greater-than-ever-before/

Scotland is not leaving the UK, it's the UK that is leaving Scotland.

Wise words from Eddie Butler talking the other day about Welsh Independence.

'The UK that my parents loved and were proud of no longer exists'.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Always makes me smile when I see that used!

My first manager reviewed my first report and required me to rephrase '...is outwith the scope of this study'. I was adamant that there was nothing wrong with what I had written - that it was perfect - he claimed there was no such word...I lost...

 

[Foxholer]

My first manager reviewed my first report and required me to rephrase '...is outwith the scope of this study'. I was adamant that there was nothing wrong with what I had written - that it was perfect - he claimed there was no such word...I lost...

I hope you caused a sufficient kerfuffle about it all the same! That was, indeed, 'perfect'!

 

[SocketRocket]

https://politics-punked.com/2019/10...ish-independence-is-greater-than-ever-before/

Scotland is not leaving the UK, it's the UK that is leaving Scotland.

Wise words from Eddie Butler talking the other day about Welsh Independence.

'The UK that my parents loved and were proud of no longer exists'.

Correct! It has been whittled away at by people just like you who for some irrational reason have decided their lot will be better suited to be subserviant chattels to the Franco-German Empire.