The Next Labour leader

[SocketRocket]

Well it’s true, so it suggests that if anything Labour need to be much less progressive and more “dinosaur” like to get in.

Dont you have that wrong. Dinosaurs are extinct from not being able to exist in a changing environment, Labour need to learn from those that can.

 

[PhilTheFragger]

I hope they get someone with a bit of gravitas and serious knowledge of economics and International Trade/business. I shudder at their contemplation that Rebecca L-B is a possibility.

But Boris got in and nobody can accuse him of natural gravitas nor is he tarred with serious knowledge of economics and international trade

 

[Old Skier]

Well it’s true, so it suggests that if anything Labour need to be much less progressive and more “dinosaur” like to get in.

Have yo u noticed the age of your leader

 

[williamalex1]

if they want to appeal to the masses, someone under 60, can head a football or have a kick around with some young scamps on the local field, have a youngish family for those all important Photo Opps... someone who's never done anything that can be dragged up from 30 years ago Oh get themsleves a silly slogan.... and def not a Socialist.. sorted

I don't normally get too involved in political stuff, but IMHO, Labour never had a hope in hell in Scotland from the start, no matter what they promised, except perhaps offering another Indi Ref.
I think their biggest gamble/mistake was assuming that the majority of UK leave voters had changed their minds or wanted another referendum.
Corbin has no personality and his appearance leaves a lot to be desired.

 

[clubchamp98]

Its difficult to hold a government with an 80 seat majority to account and especialy when the descenters have been purged.

Yes but you still need a presence at Pmqs.
One the country hasn’t rejected already. Or you know is leaving.

 

[Old Skier]

Interesting and so true. Not for the fainted hearted and NSFW. Live and learn

 

[williamalex1]

Interesting and so true. Not for the fainted hearted and NSFW. Live and learn

I explained it a lot quicker in post 164

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I don't normally get too involved in political stuff, but IMHO, Labour never had a hope in hell in Scotland from the start, no matter what they promised, except perhaps offering another Indi Ref.
I think their biggest gamble/mistake was assuming that the majority of UK leave voters had changed their minds or wanted another referendum.
Corbin has no personality and his appearance leaves a lot to be desired.

It’s not the X-Factor and we kept getting told it was a choice between the worst 2 leaders in history.

 

[williamalex1]

It’s not the X-Factor and we kept getting told it was a choice between the worst 2 leaders in history.

Seemingly he can't even sing the Red Flag in tune

 

[Fade and Die]

Interesting and so true. Not for the fainted hearted and NSFW. Live and learn

Goodness me you’d think he was a regular reader of this board! The first half of his rant perfectly described some of the “momentum set” on here. ?

 

[MegaSteve]

Someone who doesn't have the support of Momentum...

 

[USER1999]

The Tories are the party for the dinosaurs, the younger generations favoured Labour.

You don't think that may be the youngsters vote was bought by promises of a free education, and a cancelling of student debts?

Easy to buy votes, tougher to keep them once the relevance of the bribe wears off.

 

[MegaSteve]

You don't think that may be the youngsters vote was bought by promises of a free education, and a cancelling of student debts?

Easy to buy votes, tougher to keep them once the relevance of the bribe wears off.

In the same way the tories have 'purchased' votes on promises of closing the borders limiting immigration... Let's see how that pans out as they continue to fail to deliver on that...

 

[SocketRocket]

In the same way the tories have 'purchased' votes on promises of closing the borders limiting immigration... Let's see how that pans out as they continue to fail to deliver on that...

But they havent said that at all. They have said they want to control immigration by using a points system to allow people with the skills we need to live here. If you look around the world you will find this same system used by many countries like Australia, New Zealand, Canada, USA and so on. Are these countries failing to deliver to their citizens or is that something only for the UK. What would you prefer: an open border system that allows anyone in the world free entry, access to welfare, housing, health care, education? Please tell me because I sure cant understand what kind of system people decrying it would prefer.

 

[richart]

But Boris got in and nobody can accuse him of natural gravitas nor is he tarred with serious knowledge of economics and international trade

You cant fight Boris, with a Boris clone. You need one major leader that has got a clue what is going on.

I have never used the word buffoon so much since Boris became tory leader.

 

[MegaSteve]

But they havent said that at all. They have said they want to control immigration by using a points system to allow people with the skills we need to live here. If you look around the world you will find this same sysyem used by many countries like Australia, New Zealand, Canada, USA and so on. Are these countries failing to deliver to their citizens or is that something only for the UK. What would you prefer: an open border system that allows anyone in the world free entry, access to welfare, housing, health care, education? Please tell me because I sure cant understand what kind of system people decrying it would prefer.

It's not what I would prefer that matters... It's the perception that many tory voters have... That they have voted for the floodgates to be closed...

 

[Beezerk]

The Tories are the party for the dinosaurs, the younger generations favoured Labour.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1206268878919217152

 

[williamalex1]

But they havent said that at all. They have said they want to control immigration by using a points system to allow people with the skills we need to live here. If you look around the world you will find this same sysyem used by many countries like Australia, New Zealand, Canada, USA and so on. Are these countries failing to deliver to their citizens or is that something only for the UK. What would you prefer: an open border system that allows anyone in the world free entry, access to welfare, housing, health care, education? Please tell me because I sure cant understand what kind of system people decrying it would prefer.

I think the biggest problem is with illegal entries.
Sad times , but what can we really do to prevent illegals coming here and still be decent human beings.
It looks like the smugglers take advantage of these poor people. And just load them into unsafe boats loaded well to over the safety limit.
In the hope of getting halfway across the channel, then maybe get picked up by the coast guard or Navy and taken to safety and granted asylum.
Our benefits system really needs updating,
IF this is really true seemingly an immigrant here is entitled to more benefits than a disabled military veteran serviceman and more than our basic pensioner receives, and housed quicker.
I shudder to think what benefits I would get, if I had to illegally enter ANY other country.

 

[SocketRocket]

It's not what I would prefer that matters... It's the perception that many tory voters have... That they have voted for the floodgates to be closed...

But when thats questioned it needs an answer, I think the term we hear so much is being held to account.