The Footie Thread

[Aztecs27]

Keep getting flashbacks to that Murillo 30 yard thunder-wotsit in the 1st half and Elanga's cross towards the end of the game right across the face of goal. What could have been

Oh and Murillo for £80m is looking like an absolute steal now

 

[Don Barzini]

Keep getting flashbacks to that Murillo 30 yard thunder-wotsit in the 1st half and Elanga's cross towards the end of the game right across the face of goal. What could have been

Oh and Murillo for £80m is looking like an absolute steal now

I keep saying it, but one day....one golden day....one of those Murillo shots will bulge the back of the net. I just hope it's while he's wearing a Forest shirt.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

I keep saying it, but one day....one golden day....one of those Murillo shots will bulge the back of the net. I just hope it's while he's wearing a Forest shirt.

He will do it in a red shirt that’s for sure

 

[Aztecs27]

I'm semi-hopeful that if we get CL football next season, that he'll stay. I think he's happy here, but if we're offered a lot of money, I sadly don't think we can turn it down.

Lad in my office this morning was like "why's Murillo trying to lob the keeper from halfway?"....because, my friend, that's what Murillo does.

 

[Neilds]

Any decent manager will look at the players they have and then employ the tactics required to get the best out of the players he has and get results

That’s exactly what Nuno has done- adjusting to play to the strengths of his players

The strengths are the back line and pace on the break

Kompany etc were stuck in their ways to play just one way and didn’t have the players to play the way they wanted , same with Soton

City have the players to do it to a high level which is why they are successful

Pep couldn’t do it with the level of players at Burnley etc

It’s also an issue Amorin is facing - he has a preferred system and he is sticking to it even if he doesn’t have the players to play it ,

It’s why the club prob went with Slot - his tatics aren’t too different from Klopp and the players are suited to it and it’s working

Agree about using players to the best of their ability, but Pep has got a big lump of a centre forward who never strays much outside the penalty area - why don't they get the ball into the box and use his strength and height. All the midfield are capable passers so should be able to pick out Haaland to nod it in.

 

[Don Barzini]

He will do it in a red shirt that’s for sure

Real Madrid changed their strip?

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Agree about using players to the best of their ability, but Pep has got a big lump of a centre forward who never strays much outside the penalty area - why don't they get the ball into the box and use his strength and height. All the midfield are capable passers so should be able to pick out Haaland to nod it in.

They do get it into the box for him

That’s why he has scored 111 goals in 126 games for them

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Real Madrid changed their strip?

Murilo will cost money - Madrid prefer to get their players on a freebie

 

[Neilds]

They do get it into the box for him

That’s why he has scored 111 goals in 126 games for them

Hardly been prolific since Aug last year, averaging about a goal a month

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Hardly been prolific since Aug last year, averaging about a goal a month

That’s what happens when the team are playing poorly - he isn’t getting the service and he himself is missing chances

 

[Orikoru]

There have always been teams that are less possession based and more about being solid and countering and have found varying levels of success

We can all remember the Bolton and Stokes of the past

The Burnley’s etc

They played to the strengthens of the squad and to the players that they could bring into the club

It does a job

It will get the team points

But in the long run it’s not going to give a team any sustained success

The way Forest play wasn’t too different to the Wolves side he had , and it’s the same as he tried to play at Spurs

And he will keep Forest a solid team in the same way he did with Wolves

It’s not going to win trophies though

It won Leicester a trophy though. They pretty much played the same way. 4-4-2 with fast players who can make an impact in key areas. Solid defenders who don't muck about. It's the same blueprint really.

 

[Neilds]

That’s what happens when the team are playing poorly - he isn’t getting the service and he himself is missing chances

So you agree that City aren't playing to his strengths and possession football isn't working?

 

[Orikoru]

Pep Guardiola has got the entire world believing that the only way to win (or to deserve to win) a football match is to dominate possession, play out from the back and tippy-tap it around your back line until you bore the opposition to death. How’s that working out for Southampton this year? How did it work out for Burnley last year? (Alright, it somehow worked out for Kompany - I’ll never understand that!)

King Nuno has proved him wrong and people are struggling a great deal to accept it.

Give me this current style of play by Forest - breaking away at lightening speed and scoring beautiful goals - rather than playing five million passes round the edge of the box before tying to walk it into the net any day!

I also much prefer counter-attacking than death by a thousand passes. It's why I always hated the Barca team of the late 2000s. Boring.

I am wishing Spurs gave Nuno more of a chance rather than knee-jerking thanks to Levy's Conte obsession. The argument was that the football wasn't great, but I think he was doing due diligence in making sure we were defensively sound before addressing the attacking side. Pretty much what he has done with Forest from the start of his tenure to now. Ange has come in and his approach is to ignore defence completely. We are lower down and worse off now than we were when Nuno was sacked, I believe, but some fans seem to rate attractive football over actual results, which I cannot get on board with.

 

[RichA]

Give me this current style of play by Forest - breaking away at lightening speed and scoring beautiful goals - rather than playing five million passes round the edge of the box before tying to walk it into the net any day!

Heard a stat a couple of days ago - only half a dozen of our goals have actually come from counter attacks this season. Surprised me.

 

[RichA]

Keep getting flashbacks to that Murillo 30 yard thunder-wotsit in the 1st half and Elanga's cross towards the end of the game right across the face of goal. What could have been

Oh and Murillo for £80m is looking like an absolute steal now

As great as Chris Wood is, I'd love to see an effective, traditional English goalhanger in the team - even just for use as a sub when Wood has worn himself out. We create a few of these type of chances later in games.

 

[clubchamp98]

Keep getting flashbacks to that Murillo 30 yard thunder-wotsit in the 1st half and Elanga's cross towards the end of the game right across the face of goal. What could have been

Oh and Murillo for £80m is looking like an absolute steal now

What could have been is we could have put 6 or 7 past you.

 

[RichA]

What could have been is we could have put 6 or 7 past you.

... if there'd been 18 hours of stoppage time.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

So you agree that City aren't playing to his strengths and possession football isn't working?

They aren’t playing to their ability

Doesn’t matter what style is played if the players aren’t playing well

And “possession” style football has enabled him to score a significant amount of goals

 

[Aztecs27]

As great as Chris Wood is, I'd love to see an effective, traditional English goalhanger in the team - even just for use as a sub when Wood has worn himself out. We create a few of these type of chances later in games.

Yea, Wood (and the whole team really) was gassed at this point, so I can't really blame them too much. Jota Silva with fresh legs was in the vicinity, which makes sense but a shame he couldn't get in front of his man. If that was Chris Wood (or another striker) his movement would have allowed him to at least have a chance to get a toe on it.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

As great as Chris Wood is, I'd love to see an effective, traditional English goalhanger in the team - even just for use as a sub when Wood has worn himself out. We create a few of these type of chances later in games.

That's all about the depth you can develop, incredibly difficult with the financial restrictions now. Ideally, you would have a player to bring on with 15 minutes to go who would finish those off. That type of depth takes a while to develop, as Newcastle, Villa, West Ham etc have discovered in recent years.