The Footie Thread

[Don Barzini]

Which is a travesty. He hasnt hurt nobody with what he said, unprofessional yes but not something derseving to lose a career over.

His position as a PL ref is untenable.

Even though we all know that referees will hold opinions like this about certain teams/individuals, they can't say it out loud.

What would happen if he was allowed to continue refereeing PL games? Liverpool, very understandably, would never want him to referee their games again. And if you take the position of saying he refs other teams apart from them, you open the floodgates for every other team to say "Well in that case, we don't want so-and-so to referee our games."

Nope. He's done as a PL ref.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

I’ve read on the BBC website the second video/images were taken during the Euros at which he was a 4th official

The day after

 

[Swango1980]

Yeah bigger squads isn't the answer, the pool of top quality players is only so big and then the quality would drop off.

City might look to rest players against mid table sides, mid table sides will go full strength to try and capitalise on a weakened opponent.

Only way to address it long term is to reduce the amount of club games. European sides entering domestic cups in later rounds is one good work around already in place. Maybe needs expanding.

Maybe its even time to omit European sides from the League Cup entirely. I know that's a big suggestion but what else is there!

Some good ideas.

Do the top teams in each nation need to be part of TWO domestic cup competitions? Is one enough? Can't see them dropping out, and maybe the League Cup has the advantage of being able to field players from huge squads, that never get a chance in other competitions. But, I suppose if the big clubs do use the League Cup as a way to field minor players, then they shouldn't add it to the ever growing list of games impacting their top players.

If European Competitions are continually growing, can the biggest teams not be exempt until later on? probably, but will never happen. UEFA will want them there right from the beginning (after the prelim rounds anyway).

Was interested to hear Kane's view on players dropping out of England. However, it might be a bit easier for him to play for England without worrying about fatigue? The German league has 18 sides, which is already 4 games less than Premier League. Not sure how many domestic cup games Bayern can potentially play though

 

[Bdill93]

Just used the BBC squad picker to choose what I thought was the strongest possible England side tonight (taking into account who Carsley also is likely to pick)

Pickford
Walker, Guehi, Konsa, Hall
Gomes, Bellingham, Gallagher
Madueke, Kane, Gordon

Could easily see Jones in the middle for either of Gomes or Gallagher

 

[Bdill93]

Some good ideas.

Do the top teams in each nation need to be part of TWO domestic cup competitions? Is one enough? Can't see them dropping out, and maybe the League Cup has the advantage of being able to field players from huge squads, that never get a chance in other competitions. But, I suppose if the big clubs do use the League Cup as a way to field minor players, then they shouldn't add it to the ever growing list of games impacting their top players.

If European Competitions are continually growing, can the biggest teams not be exempt until later on? probably, but will never happen. UEFA will want them there right from the beginning (after the prelim rounds anyway).

Was interested to hear Kane's view on players dropping out of England. However, it might be a bit easier for him to play for England without worrying about fatigue? The German league has 18 sides, which is already 4 games less than Premier League. Not sure how many domestic cup games Bayern can potentially play though

They also get a winter break in Germany....

 

[Beezerk]

The day after

Ooops, wonder what the refs wages in Saudi are like

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Ooops, wonder what the refs wages in Saudi are like

Not sure that he would get employment there tbh

Maybe MLS

 

[Beezerk]

Not sure that he would get employment there tbh

Maybe MLS

Would they let him into the USA? I’m not sure if he’d need a conviction for that or if they’d just refuse him entry regardless.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Would they let him into the USA? I’m not sure if he’d need a conviction for that or if they’d just refuse him entry regardless.

Very true

Might be like the other ref that went off to Norway for a bit

 

[clubchamp98]

Who exactly is puppet master of Gary Neville and Spitty Carra I wonder?

The pair of them cannot WAIT to weigh in and fart out their opinions on everything and everyone else within football. But the Coote story drops and we hear nothing from either of them for several days. And when we do, both give very similar and very measured responses.

Who pulls their strings?!

Well just look what happened at Forest when your owner couldn’t keep his frustrations to himself.

The lawyers will be telling them to keep quiet!

 

[Morfeen75]

His position as a PL ref is untenable.

Even though we all know that referees will hold opinions like this about certain teams/individuals, they can't say it out loud.

What would happen if he was allowed to continue refereeing PL games? Liverpool, very understandably, would never want him to referee their games again. And if you take the position of saying he refs other teams apart from them, you open the floodgates for every other team to say "Well in that case, we don't want so-and-so to referee our games."

Nope. He's done as a PL ref.

I disagree. He should be allowed to ref at PL level. His opinion of Klopp isnt proof he's biased against LiverpoolFC. To suggest such is crazy. He should be able to referee any team he doesnt have any alleigance to. I'm sure at the professional level of the club they would be fine with him refereeing there games.

No team should dictate who can or cant referee them. Those days have gone since Sir Alex Ferguson moved on.

Reprimand him, re educate him and move on.

 

[Whereditgo]

Wasn't the opening phrase "Liverpool are "?

Nope, untenable is the right word.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

I disagree. He should be allowed to ref at PL level. His opinion of Klopp isnt proof he's biased against LiverpoolFC. To suggest such is crazy. He should be able to referee any team he doesnt have any alleigance to. I'm sure at the professional level of the club they would be fine with him refereeing there games.

No team should dictate who can or cant referee them. Those days have gone since Sir Alex Ferguson moved on.

Reprimand him, re educate him and move on.

Are you not aware of the second video ?


And also there is no way other clubs will also want him being in the middle for any game

Every single game he is involved in now every single decision will be questioned

He will be aware of them and there is very much a chance he gives Liverpool favourable decisions subconsciously because of what’s happened

His position is now untenable

And the “club” have not said a single word about the incident

 

[Bdill93]

Are you not aware of the second video ?


And also there is no way other clubs will also want him being in the middle for any game

Every single game he is involved in now every single decision will be questioned

He will be aware of them and there is very much a chance he gives Liverpool favourable decisions subconsciously because of what’s happened

His position is now untenable

And the “club” have not said a single word about the incident

Strangely enough my Liverpool supporting mate basically said all of this to me last night too.

For sure - he cant ref a Liverpool game again, but I literally wouldn't care if he was reffing Villa v Ipswich, why should we, hes a bloke with an opinion is all.

Every single ref in the world will have opinions on every manager they have worked with, will prefer some and not like others.

Refs are not robots, we need to just get over it.

Second video probably costs him his career though

 

[Swango1980]

Are you not aware of the second video ?


And also there is no way other clubs will also want him being in the middle for any game

Every single game he is involved in now every single decision will be questioned

He will be aware of them and there is very much a chance he gives Liverpool favourable decisions subconsciously because of what’s happened

His position is now untenable

And the “club” have not said a single word about the incident

Is that any different to several other referees? I mean, there are a few people in here who seem to question every single decision of Anthony Taylor

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Strangely enough my Liverpool supporting mate basically said all of this to me last night too.

For sure - he cant ref a Liverpool game again, but I literally wouldn't care if he was reffing Villa v Ipswich, why should we, hes a bloke with an opinion is all.

Every single ref in the world will have opinions on every manager they have worked with, will prefer some and not like others.

Refs are not robots, we need to just get over it.

Second video probably costs him his career though

They are all humans and he is no different

I don’t expect he has ever made a mistake deliberately in a teams favour based on how he feels towards

But that’s what people will now think and it prob puts him in a bad place

The second does him in anyway

 

[Pin-seeker]

Who exactly is puppet master of Gary Neville and Spitty Carra I wonder?

The pair of them cannot WAIT to weigh in and fart out their opinions on everything and everyone else within football. But the Coote story drops and we hear nothing from either of them for several days. And when we do, both give very similar and very measured responses.

Who pulls their strings?!

Carra’s hardly in a position to criticise anyone.

 

[Pin-seeker]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1857003931412361254

 

[Tashyboy]

Re Coote, I totally get he is entitled to an opinion. But make it professional. His rant was quite frankly embarrassing and ignorant. I think it was someone on here who suggested he was “ on something”. Recent videos endorse that. There’s not a cat in hells chance he will referee again. The PGMOL could support and rehabilitate him. But fans won’t forget. City and Utd fans would roll out the red carpet for him. Liverpool fans would burn him at the stake.

 

[Don Barzini]

I disagree. He should be allowed to ref at PL level. His opinion of Klopp isnt proof he's biased against LiverpoolFC. To suggest such is crazy. He should be able to referee any team he doesnt have any alleigance to. I'm sure at the professional level of the club they would be fine with him refereeing there games.

I’m not! He didn’t just slag Klopp, he slagged Liverpool too. There is no way in this world Liverpool would want him anywhere near their games.

He might referee again, but it won’t be in the PL. No chance.