Don Barzini
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I’d imagine it’s far better than most other clubs. Because most other clubs have no option but to sell their decent academy products to remain within the rules of PSR.
I’d imagine it’s far better than most other clubs. Because most other clubs have no option but to sell their decent academy products to remain within the rules of PSR.
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
This was last season
Which Premier League clubs played the most youth academy players in the 23/24 season?
The Premier League season is finally over and while fans take in the last 10 months of football and consider whether their clubs improved or went backwards, it’s worth considering which players came t [...]
But I don’t think it’s right to include players that have been bought - the likes of Harvey Elliot for us
Looking at city they have 3 - Foden , Lewis and McAtee
United - Rashford , Mainoo ,Wheatley
We have - Quansah , Jones , TAA and Morton
Think Brighton’s academy is up there with getting talent through
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Don Barzini
Assistant Pro
This was last season
Which Premier League clubs played the most youth academy players in the 23/24 season?
The Premier League season is finally over and while fans take in the last 10 months of football and consider whether their clubs improved or went backwards, it’s worth considering which players came t [...]www.transfermarkt.co.uk
But I don’t think it’s right to include players that have been bought - the likes of Harvey Elliot for us
Looking at city they have 3 - Foden , Lewis and McAtee
United - Rashford , Mainoo ,
We have - Quansah , Jones , TAA and Morton
Think Brighton’s academy is up there with getting talent through
Forest have this crazy stat that since October 1941, they have always had a homegrown player, or someone for whom Forest was their first professional team, in every single matchday squad.
Report: Nottingham Forest’s Academy: A Footballer’s Pathway from Youth to Premier League
Read this news on OneFootball.
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That blows my mind.
Not really sure if Forest have specifically tried to do this or if it’s just a consequence of circumstances.Do any other clubs boast a similar record?
Though I believe the run is in danger of being ended at some point soon, as I think Ryan Yates is the only one that is currently anywhere near the first team. So if he’s injured at any point that’s probably the end.
Swango1980
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Man Utd have done the same since October 1937Forest have this crazy stat that since October 1941, they have always had a homegrown player, or someone for whom Forest was their first professional team, in every single matchday squad.
Report: Nottingham Forest’s Academy: A Footballer’s Pathway from Youth to Premier League
Read this news on OneFootball.
That blows my mind.
Do any other clubs boast a similar record?
Though I believe the run is in danger of being ended at some point soon, as I think Ryan Yates is the only one that is currently anywhere near the first team. So if he’s injured at any point that’s probably the end.
The success of a clubs academy can be skewed now. Is it a local lad who genuinely came through the ranks or is it a bought in wonder kid from around the globe? The dice are being loaded if it is the latter, which is often the case with the really big boys now.
Swango1980
Well-known member
I don't know the details and rules of how clubs get their academy players. Although I suspect all Premier League and even Championship clubs can recruit excellent youth players, simply as they have a high standing in UK?
Wheras much smaller clubs less likely. I suppose if you are a top young footballer living in Lincoln or Grimsby, would it be pretty restrictive on them if they had to go through local academies? Whereas having the opportunity at some point to go to Man Utd, City, Liverpool, Arsenal or even Everton, Forest, Leeds, Palace would be much more beneficial to them?
But regardless of that, developing them enough to make it as PL players is still a big job. The bigger clubs can invest most in trying to create what they believe is the best development system to young players, so ultimately no surprise they will generally be pretty successful at it
Don Barzini
Assistant Pro
Wow!
Honestly, I wasn’t actually sure if Forest’s stat was impressive, or whether it was kind of just standard and loads of other clubs could make similar claims!
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
Hence why I don’t count someone that’s been plucked from another clubs academy at the age of 16 as “club youth product”
As such - city fans going on about Bobb being the next one of the production line - they bought him last year
Norrin Radd
Tour Winner
For genuine local lads currently playing Brighton have three who were all Sussex boys before playing for us. Dunk .March and the latest one who you should keep an eye on is Hinshelwood,he is the fourth in a family line to represent the club and so far is looking by far the best ot them . He will be another huge sale item for the Albion when the big boys come shopping.
You heard it here first . .
Oh and he played for the u21 last night .
You heard it here first . .
Oh and he played for the u21 last night .
PaulMdj
Well-known member
I think Utd had the record or something similar about youth team players. It was quite impressive.Forest have this crazy stat that since October 1941, they have always had a homegrown player, or someone for whom Forest was their first professional team, in every single matchday squad.
Report: Nottingham Forest’s Academy: A Footballer’s Pathway from Youth to Premier League
Read this news on OneFootball.
That blows my mind.
Do any other clubs boast a similar record?
Though I believe the run is in danger of being ended at some point soon, as I think Ryan Yates is the only one that is currently anywhere near the first team. So if he’s injured at any point that’s probably the end.
Swango1980
Well-known member
I'm pretty sure Forest's record is very impressive. I just knew that Man United held the record in that stat, and Forest are only a few years behind thatWow!
Honestly, I wasn’t actually sure if Forest’s stat was impressive, or whether it was kind of just standard and loads of other clubs could make similar claims!
Beezerk
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Don Barzini
Assistant Pro
Forest fined £750,000 over the VAR post last season after the match at Goodison.
The FA had sought a £1 million fine.
Nottingham Forest fined £750,000 for Stuart Attwell 'VAR is a Luton fan' social media post
Nottingham Forest are found guilty of bringing the game into disrepute for their comments about match officials in last season's 2-0 loss at Everton.www.bbc.co.uk
Just to come back to this.
This made for interesting reading on Twitter, far as I was concerned:
Carlisle United fined £7,500 by FA in August 2023 for racist chanting.
Millwall fined £10,000 by FA in 2019 for racist changing v Everton in an FA Cup tie.
Gillingham fined £12,500 by FA in September 2023 for sexist and racist chanting.
Chelsea fined £460,000 in 2019 by FIFA for the exploitation and trafficking of youth players.
Nottingham Forest fined £750,000 by FA in October 2024 for sending a tweet about a referee, but wanted it to be over £1,000,000.
The authorities have their heads screwed on correctly and have definitely got their priorities right.
Tashyboy
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When I read about the fine, the first thing i thought is that they are protecting the system. Personally if it was City I have a feeling that the barristers would have been involved and the comparisons made to what you have highlighted.Just to come back to this.
This made for interesting reading on Twitter, far as I was concerned:
Carlisle United fined £7,500 by FA in August 2023 for racist chanting.
Millwall fined £10,000 by FA in 2018 for racist changing v Everton in an FA Cup tie.
Gillingham fined £12,500 by FA in September 2023 for sexist and racist chanting.
Chelsea fined £460,000 in 2019 by FIFA for the exploitation and trafficking of youth players.
Nottingham Forest fined £750,000 by FA in October 2024 for sending a tweet about a referee.
The authorities have their heads screwed on correctly and have definitely got their priorities right.
I have said it for a long time, football is in a bad place at the moment.
Re Citys case. I read a piece the other day where the committee that have been set up to review the rulings that the Prem league have to change. Nearly all the committee are from club that supported the Premier league. Now seeing as over half the league either liked the rules as they were so supported neither side or supported City. How is that fair or even right.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
That’s how you put down anyone who complains about a dictatorship.Just to come back to this.
This made for interesting reading on Twitter, far as I was concerned:
Carlisle United fined £7,500 by FA in August 2023 for racist chanting.
Millwall fined £10,000 by FA in 2019 for racist changing v Everton in an FA Cup tie.
Gillingham fined £12,500 by FA in September 2023 for sexist and racist chanting.
Chelsea fined £460,000 in 2019 by FIFA for the exploitation and trafficking of youth players.
Nottingham Forest fined £750,000 by FA in October 2024 for sending a tweet about a referee, but wanted it to be over £1,000,000.
The authorities have their heads screwed on correctly and have definitely got their priorities right.
Silencing the truth about sub standard officials is very expensive for clubs.
But you won’t get any support from other clubs as money talks .
Reemul
Head Pro
The reality is outside of Chelsea thosse fines are very big for clubs of that size, Forest deserved it, really poor attitude and behaviour and yes it is putting a line in the sand and telling then and any other clubs thinking of accusing referees of being biased or cheating to not. I agree with this, shut up, stop whining and go through the proper channels.Just to come back to this.
This made for interesting reading on Twitter, far as I was concerned:
Carlisle United fined £7,500 by FA in August 2023 for racist chanting.
Millwall fined £10,000 by FA in 2019 for racist changing v Everton in an FA Cup tie.
Gillingham fined £12,500 by FA in September 2023 for sexist and racist chanting.
Chelsea fined £460,000 in 2019 by FIFA for the exploitation and trafficking of youth players.
Nottingham Forest fined £750,000 by FA in October 2024 for sending a tweet about a referee, but wanted it to be over £1,000,000.
The authorities have their heads screwed on correctly and have definitely got their priorities right.
I love the way for you have defined it as Just a tweet about a referee, like yeah right.
Any professional club Publicly questioning a referees integrity is beyond the pale. It cannot and should not be tolerated. I would argue the £750k fine is too lenient.
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
D. Henderson
T. Alexander-Arnold
J. Stones
M. Guéhi
K. Walker
D. Rice
A. Gomes
J. Grealish
J. Bellingham
C. Palmer
H. Kane (c)
Looks a bit more balanced
Walker as a left back
T. Alexander-Arnold
J. Stones
M. Guéhi
K. Walker
D. Rice
A. Gomes
J. Grealish
J. Bellingham
C. Palmer
H. Kane (c)
Looks a bit more balanced
Walker as a left back
I saw the BBC Sport headline saying Henderson was starting, and panic set in.
Until I realised they meant Dean.
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
I saw the BBC Sport headline saying Henderson was starting, and panic set in.
Until I realised they meant Dean.
The temptation was there to post the same headline
