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You can't call your game "football" as there is next to no use of the foot for movement of the ball.
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Since most of the players run with their feet rather than flap their arms to fly,
good footwear [and ankle wrapping] is important in American football.

As for what the game is called, I had little if any influence on the name.
Perhaps I should have mentioned that.:cool:
 

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Once upon a time rugby was called rugby football. The national union is called the rugby football union(RFU), although the commercial name is EnglandRugby.

Many of the long established clubs finish with xxxx rugby football club, some finishing with xxxx rugby union football club. Bit of a mouthful but most are colloquially known as xxxx rugby club.
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Poch??

How much better do you expect? Last season was his first season btw.

They were much the better team and should have won that game versus Leicester, comfortably beat Everton and unfortunate to lose versus Newcastle. Then they narrowly lost versus Arsenal. The performances havent been bad. I admire AP's tactics, it's a pleasure to watch at times. If they dropped 15 yards deeper then they wouldnt be as blistering in attack.

I appreciate that however there are times to play like he does and other times were you need to sit deeper , he will suffer second season syndrome and spurs will prob ditch him in the summer

Lifted this from another forum

"Considering they pretty much got a free pass into the quarter final this season (they nearly screwed that up though), it actually becomes one of their best chances of winning something and getting back into Europe again next season. They are not a top four team and as I said on the previous page, if the likes of Chelsea and Man Utd get their act together sharpish, they won't even be a top six side anymore."

Considering how much they need a trophy it's stupid to not take the league cup seriously
 
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I appreciate that however there are times to play like he does and other times were you need to sit deeper , he will suffer second season syndrome and spurs will prob ditch him in the summer

Lifted this from another forum

"Considering they pretty much got a free pass into the quarter final this season (they nearly screwed that up though), it actually becomes one of their best chances of winning something and getting back into Europe again next season. They are not a top four team and as I said on the previous page, if the likes of Chelsea and Man Utd get their act together sharpish, they won't even be a top six side anymore."

Considering how much they need a trophy it's stupid to not take the league cup seriously
This is what I'm saying though. The fans would like a trophy but I don't think Levy is bothered if we win the League Cup. Not much money in it.
 

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This is what I'm saying though. The fans would like a trophy but I don't think Levy is bothered if we win the League Cup. Not much money in it.

Does Levy not realise a first trophy often leads to bigger and better things?

United with the FA Cup in 1990. City with the same trophy in 2011. Both then went on to win a fistful of trophies.

Spurs need to end the barren spell. They won’t do it with the Premier League.
 

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This is what I'm saying though. The fans would like a trophy but I don't think Levy is bothered if we win the League Cup. Not much money in it.

It opens up so much tho .. if he had taken European conference seriously that gets a trophy .. then the next year that's guaranteed Europe regardless of the league which is more money

I'm sure right now the fans would take any trophy over years of nothing
 

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This is what I'm saying though. The fans would like a trophy but I don't think Levy is bothered if we win the League Cup. Not much money in it.
Given that the last time they got to the final they sacked the manager the week they were due to play in it, it’s clear they don’t care.

No fan of Jose or Spurs but it was truly mind blowing.
 

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Given that the last time they got to the final they sacked the manager the week they were due to play in it, it’s clear they don’t care.

No fan of Jose or Spurs but it was truly mind blowing.
Absolutely. Why would you do that, I asked myself at the time? I figured he probably had a bonus in his contract for winning a trophy and they didn't want to risk having to pay that before sacking him over the league performance anyway. The money always comes first.
 

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I saw UK foreign students try to play baseball when I was at university --
I'm using your idiom as we say "in college."

Not pretty, I'm afraid.
Still, good sports for trying, to be fair.
I think YOB, If there is one term which rankles Football fans, it’s when the term “ Soccer” is used to describe football. 👍
 

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What a double save from Reya last night. Not sure I've seen anything like it from a penalty. Closest I can get is probably Jim Montgomery for Sunderland in the 1973 dup final against Leeds. Still one of the best saves ever in my opinion
 

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This morning is the first time I’ve really paid any close attention to the new Champion’s and Europa League formats, and I have to say I’m not in favour.

The first thing which really struck me is the application of goal difference. Given that GD is very likely to impact on which teams finish in the top eight places, and which then occupy the playoff spots from nine to twenty four, it hardly seems like a level playing field if every team is playing different opponents within the same league.

Just citing Dinamo Zagreb as the obvious example, if they continue to be the whipping boys throughout the league stage, then those who don’t play them are at a clear and obvious disadvantage.

No, sorry. Not for me. Bring back the old group stage.
 

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This morning is the first time I’ve really paid any close attention to the new Champion’s and Europa League formats, and I have to say I’m not in favour.

The first thing which really struck me is the application of goal difference. Given that GD is very likely to impact on which teams finish in the top eight places, and which then occupy the playoff spots from nine to twenty four, it hardly seems like a level playing field if every team is playing different opponents within the same league.

Just citing Dinamo Zagreb as the obvious example, if they continue to be the whipping boys throughout the league stage, then those who don’t play them are at a clear and obvious disadvantage.

No, sorry. Not for me. Bring back the old group stage.
Time will tell , but clearly they are not quality opposition and there are stronger teams in other leagues..
But to be honest there will be some random issues over the next few years with this format and then we will be back to the refereeing favouring Real Madrid
 

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This morning is the first time I’ve really paid any close attention to the new Champion’s and Europa League formats, and I have to say I’m not in favour.

The first thing which really struck me is the application of goal difference. Given that GD is very likely to impact on which teams finish in the top eight places, and which then occupy the playoff spots from nine to twenty four, it hardly seems like a level playing field if every team is playing different opponents within the same league.

Just citing Dinamo Zagreb as the obvious example, if they continue to be the whipping boys throughout the league stage, then those who don’t play them are at a clear and obvious disadvantage.

No, sorry. Not for me. Bring back the old group stage.
I hadn't given it any thought at all so that is an interesting point. I agree it doesn't seem like a level playing field although I assume there are other teams that came out of the same pot as Dinamo Zagreb so I guess the argument is those teams are ranked around the same and so would be considered equal.
 

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I hadn't given it any thought at all so that is an interesting point. I agree it doesn't seem like a level playing field although I assume there are other teams that came out of the same pot as Dinamo Zagreb so I guess the argument is those teams are ranked around the same and so would be considered equal.

Certainly the teams will have been placed in a pot according to some sort of ranking, but there are always teams in these tournaments which struggle to compete.

In a league of 36 teams where each team only plays against eight others, GD is very likely to play a part. My view is that you can only fairly apply GD in a final league table if each team plays the same opposition over the course of the league.
 

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Certainly the teams will have been placed in a pot according to some sort of ranking, but there are always teams in these tournaments which struggle to compete.

In a league of 36 teams where each team only plays against eight others, GD is very likely to play a part. My view is that you can only fairly apply GD in a final league table if each team plays the same opposition over the course of the league.

It’s rubbish , it’s just a super league at the end of the day , an excuse for more games and more money
 

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Certainly the teams will have been placed in a pot according to some sort of ranking, but there are always teams in these tournaments which struggle to compete.

In a league of 36 teams where each team only plays against eight others, GD is very likely to play a part. My view is that you can only fairly apply GD in a final league table if each team plays the same opposition over the course of the league.
And I agree. Not sure how it is fair and equitable and I am sure someone will lose out on top 8 or play off place and then whinge like crazy
 

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What a double save from Reya last night. Not sure I've seen anything like it from a penalty. Closest I can get is probably Jim Montgomery for Sunderland in the 1973 dup final against Leeds. Still one of the best saves ever in my opinion
I must be one of the only ones who wasn't super impressed by it (and I've only ever played in goal haha).

Penalty was rubbish (nowhere near the corner and an easy save for Raya after he picked the right side) and any top tier keeper would be getting up quickly anticipating the follow up. The header wasn't all that venomous, so although, yes, getting a strong hand to it was impressive (given his body angle), it was far from "one of the best saves of all time" which is how Savage was describing it :LOL:

Great save? Yes, but one a lot of top level keepers would expect to make as they would be working on drills for quick recovery after rebounding shots all week in training.
 

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I must be one of the only ones who wasn't super impressed by it (and I've only ever played in goal haha).

Penalty was rubbish (nowhere near the corner and an easy save for Raya after he picked the right side) and any top tier keeper would be getting up quickly anticipating the follow up. The header wasn't all that venomous, so although, yes, getting a strong hand to it was impressive (given his body angle), it was far from "one of the best saves of all time" which is how Savage was describing it :LOL:

Great save? Yes, but one a lot of top level keepers would expect to make as they would be working on drills for quick recovery after rebounding shots all week in training.
As a fellow keeper I tend to disagree. I think the VAR break helped as Raya clearly got instructions on which way to go a nd so that definitely helped. The ball could have gone anywhere including back for a tap in and while the player had to wait for the ball to come down he hit the header down and into a corner which made it harder to get across to. Certainly one of the best saves from a penalty where reaction times are reduced given the proximity of the ball and striker. Still think the Montgomery save one of the best I've seen, especially in an era where arguably keepers weren't as well trained especially on recovery from a first save. All opinions of course
 

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This morning is the first time I’ve really paid any close attention to the new Champion’s and Europa League formats, and I have to say I’m not in favour.

The first thing which really struck me is the application of goal difference. Given that GD is very likely to impact on which teams finish in the top eight places, and which then occupy the playoff spots from nine to twenty four, it hardly seems like a level playing field if every team is playing different opponents within the same league.

Just citing Dinamo Zagreb as the obvious example, if they continue to be the whipping boys throughout the league stage, then those who don’t play them are at a clear and obvious disadvantage.

No, sorry. Not for me. Bring back the old group stage.
It's crap and they've completely ruined the competition, just as they have the Euros and the World Cup. All about getting more teams in to make money for more people, even if it completely ruins the format.
 

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I must be one of the only ones who wasn't super impressed by it (and I've only ever played in goal haha).

Penalty was rubbish (nowhere near the corner and an easy save for Raya after he picked the right side) and any top tier keeper would be getting up quickly anticipating the follow up. The header wasn't all that venomous, so although, yes, getting a strong hand to it was impressive (given his body angle), it was far from "one of the best saves of all time" which is how Savage was describing it :LOL:

Great save? Yes, but one a lot of top level keepers would expect to make as they would be working on drills for quick recovery after rebounding shots all week in training.
Agree - it was a poor finish as he sort of tamely headed back to the middle of the goal, gave the keeper a chance. A proper striker would have powered the header home, closer to the right hand post.
 
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