The Footie Thread

[Arthur Wedge]

The intent from the players is massively different , they look a lot more comfortable, being played in their best positions and just being allowed to go out there and go for it - they aren’t afraid to make a mistake , they are sitting deep , players are roaming all over the place and it’s getting the best out of them

 

[PaulMdj]

No bad performances from any players.

Impressed with Gomes, Grealish, Gordon, Lewis and TAA.

TAA man of the match for me, not every pass came off, but always looking forward to put people through.

And for those criticising Kane, have a look how deep Bowen was coming looking for the ball. That’s not a criticism of Bowen, as I believe managers are happy with Kane coming deep at times and no issue with Bowen doing it either.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1833601881295192187

It’s good to see an England manager who can finally use TAA in his best position


Sterner tests to come but Carsley has made a bright start

 

[4LEX]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1833601881295192187

It’s good to see an England manager who can finally use TAA in his best position


Sterner tests to come but Carsley has made a bright start

Kyle Walker will be back in for the games that matter though.

 

[4LEX]

Anthony Gordon was Englands best player again in my opinion.

He isn't perfect but he's a proper livewire who stretches the pitch and creates a lot of space. One of Southgate's biggest mistakes was not using him at the Euros IMO.

 

[clubchamp98]

Nope! You need to watch it again, he started tracking back when TAA intercepted the ball and put him through, he carried it into the box, beat a man and scored.

2nd goal he was in the box.

No he didn’t .
He just wandered along the defensive line about 2 yds outside the box.

That’s a bit different than standing next to your own left back!

He’s a top class striker , still one of the best in the world but he won’t score many from the left back position.

 

[4LEX]

You maybe correct or completely wrong, let’s give Carsley a chance for the few match’s he’s in charge.

I certainly don’t think he’s going to have any issues dealing with ego’s.

The 1st half last night (with a weakened team) was as good as anything we’d seen in Southgate’s 8 years, rather than expecting some high profile foreigner to come in and change it overnight.

We’ve tried that and it came with limited success.

Two points on that Paul, apologises for the late reply too.

It was against Ireland, who also got embarrassed 2-0 at home by Greece tonight which puts our first half into context. I've seen us perform miles better under Southgate, against much better teams.

Carsley is a foreigner. Not that I think that's a bad thing, I'm totally in favour of appointing the best person, regardless of nationality. These have been two easy games and we've played no better than you'd expect given the gulf in class, if anything the scorelines are disappointing.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Kyle Walker will be back in for the games that matter though.

I suspect Kyle Walkers time maybe over - time to move forward now not backwards

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Two points on that Paul, apologises for the late reply too.

It was against Ireland, who also got embarrassed 2-0 at home by Greece tonight which puts our first half into context. I've seen us perform miles better under Southgate, against much better teams.

Carsley is a foreigner. Not that I think that's a bad thing, I'm totally in favour of appointing the best person, regardless of nationality. These have been two easy games and we've played no better than you'd expect given the gulf in class, if anything the scorelines are disappointing.

I know some don’t like Birmingham but taking it out of England is extreme

 

[PaulMdj]

Two points on that Paul, apologises for the late reply too.

It was against Ireland, who also got embarrassed 2-0 at home by Greece tonight which puts our first half into context. I've seen us perform miles better under Southgate, against much better teams.

Carsley is a foreigner. Not that I think that's a bad thing, I'm totally in favour of appointing the best person, regardless of nationality. These have been two easy games and we've played no better than you'd expect given the gulf in class, if anything the scorelines are disappointing.

I don’t think for any manager being in charge of his first 2 games those results are disappointing.

He/anyone can only set up against the team in front of him and I don’t think anyone expectec 4 or 5 nil hammerings.

He’s made a few decisions and he’s got 6 games to prove himself, all he can do is win and try and show some style/structure to how he sees England going forward.

I think the other thing we have to remember is the next big Competition will be the WC 26 and the draw for that doesn’t take place until Dec this year.

What we don’t want is a changing of managers and the circus that comes with it and the likelihood that we might not face top teams until then, therefore we might have no idea how we’ll fair against top opposition.

 

[PaulMdj]

No he didn’t .
He just wandered along the defensive line about 2 yds outside the box.

That’s a bit different than standing next to your own left back!

He’s a top class striker , still one of the best in the world but he won’t score many from the left back position.

You need to watch it again.

 

[4LEX]

I suspect Kyle Walkers time maybe over - time to move forward now not backwards

I'd be in favour and have pushed for him to be starting for a while, especially in games against lesser sides.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

I'd be in favour and have pushed for him to be starting for a while, especially in games against lesser sides.

Against the stronger sides they just need to have someone sitting in the middle who can cover and CBs with pace to allow the fullbacks to go high or invert

 

[4LEX]

I know some don’t like Birmingham but taking it out of England is extreme

He's Irish, he picked Ireland over England.

 

[clubchamp98]

You need to watch it again.

Just watched it I think you need a new telly.
He’s two three yards outside the box.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

He's Irish, he picked England over Ireland.

Nope he is English, born in England to English parents - playing for Ireland was down to eligibility as opposed to nationality.

 

[PaulMdj]

Just watched it I think you need a new telly.
He’s two three yards outside the box.

So we’ve gone from 2 to 2-3 yds
What was he doing, where was he when Finland started moving the ball out of defence?

 

[4LEX]

I don’t think for any manager being in charge of his first 2 games those results are disappointing.

He/anyone can only set up against the team in front of him and I don’t think anyone expectec 4 or 5 nil hammerings.

He’s made a few decisions and he’s got 6 games to prove himself, all he can do is win and try and show some style/structure to how he sees England going forward.

I think the other thing we have to remember is the next big Competition will be the WC 26 and the draw for that doesn’t take place until Dec this year.

What we don’t want is a changing of managers and the circus that comes with it and the likelihood that we might not face top teams until then, therefore we might have no idea how we’ll fair against top opposition.

Southgate would be getting pelters if we had only won those games 2-0, with two disappointing halves in both. Just trying to be consistent.

The issue I have is those 6 games are against easy teams and you could literally put anyone in charge and we'd likely win all of them.

I agree on there being no rush but it seems to me, just a PR exercise and the decision has already been made bar a total disaster. We should be learning from the mistakes that have seen us miss out on major tournaments, rather than look to sell them as a success and keep making those same mistakes.

 

[Swango1980]

I'll never get why some England fans want Harry Kane dropped. One of the best strikers I've ever seen, and full confidence he knows what to do when an opportunity arises.

Sure, he might play in line ups or systems that don't take full advantage of his talent. But, develop a system that can utilise Kane's ability, England can be one hell of a team

 

[PJ87]

I'll never get why some England fans want Harry Kane dropped. One of the best strikers I've ever seen, and full confidence he knows what to do when an opportunity arises.

Sure, he might play in line ups or systems that don't take full advantage of his talent. But, develop a system that can utilise Kane's ability, England can be one hell of a team

It's not so much dropped as does he need to play EVERY single game

Could we not have some of the games without him to see what others can do but when it matters he starts.