The all things EV chat thread

[Pin-seeker]

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That’s not bad for £1.90 pw imo

 

[Burnsey]

How are updates normally done ? Need to go to a garage

Guess with a lot of the other stuff there are freebie apps that do it but not as good etc

Over the air - clue is there mate lol.

They update via wifi. Yes, cars have wifi now...

 

[road2ruin]

How are updates normally done ? Need to go to a garage

Guess with a lot of the other stuff there are freebie apps that do it but not as good etc

Depends on the update type but generally the OTA ones can be done by downloading the file to a USB and sticking that into the car. It’s no great hassle but I’m lazy and prefer to have the car do things like that for me.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Over the air - clue is there mate lol.

They update via wifi. Yes, cars have wifi now...

That’s what I thought but updates were part of a payment plan ?

 

[Deleted member 21784]

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In days gone past dealers would charge you £100 per update of the maps . At least you get the live traffic I guess

I like over the air updates. Saves any issues at the dealership

Thanks for posting as my Kia when it reaches 7 years should be about the same price so it's useful to know!

 

[road2ruin]

That’s what I thought but updates were part of a payment plan ?

No, updates are free, you’re just paying for less hassle. The updates that a dealer would need to do can’t be done by the owner regardless of the subscription they have.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Depends on the update type but generally the OTA ones can be done by downloading the file to a USB and sticking that into the car. It’s no great hassle but I’m lazy and prefer to have the car do things like that for me.

Can you do it via your phone for example? Use your phone to connect to 5g then download update into car ?

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Over the air - clue is there mate lol.

They update via wifi. Yes, cars have wifi now...

Part of the reason the remote services aren't free anymore is data costs. My car has a Vodafone SIM with 7 years of data included

£30 a year after that for that part of the service if I keep it going . That's not bad value for phone data

Basically wakes the car

All very clever

 

[road2ruin]

Can you do it via your phone for example? Use your phone to connect to 5g then download update into car ?

No, not as far as I know. You either have the car WiFi with the OTA updates or the more ‘old school’ downloading the file and using a USB stick method.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

No, not as far as I know. You either have the car WiFi with the OTA updates or the more ‘old school’ downloading the file and using a USB stick method.

Tesla I believe is one of the few that does proper updates over the air

They monitor your battery constantly (which is why we have so much data and information on battery health now) and they fix any issues with software remotely

 

[Arthur Wedge]

No, not as far as I know. You either have the car WiFi with the OTA updates or the more ‘old school’ downloading the file and using a USB stick method.

Cheers for the info - surprised they don’t allow the phone to connect and update via that

 

[Deleted member 35927]

Despite me trying to have a laugh at the evangelists, it turns nasty, because there simply isn't another point of view, so should just shut up if you have an opinion other than positive. Always ends up the same. Not sure why every EV owner loses their sense of humour, but as a discussion forum, they should be discussed, nit just hailed as the best thing ever.

It's not all about the 'facts', but, as you say, the convenience and it's not yet good enough for sole ownership, unless you are prepared to instil the inconveniences into your life plan. Blame your kids for needing a break when your battery needs charging etc. Madness.

Second car, home charger, tootling around locally - great option.

I'm not sure what your other point of view is today your post was some nonsnse about losing 46 miles if I pre cool my car. Then it's the tired old trope about the inconvenience of it all.
If you don't want one don't get one , but don't pretend to know what it's like based on stuff you've read on the internet. Ive had 0 issues and have driven to enormous distances, all without little kids!

 

[road2ruin]

Cheers for the info - surprised they don’t allow the phone to connect and update via that

My guess is that it adds an additional unknown to the process in terms of different phones running different OS and it’s just more trouble than it’s worth ensuring compatibility.

 

[Deleted member 35927]

If we had off road parking to allow us to charge the car I suspect we would have got an EV as a second car mainly for the wife to pop to work and back a couple times a week and then to hockey

You'd soon find youd use the EV as much as possible.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

My guess is that it adds an additional unknown to the process in terms of different phones running different OS and it’s just more trouble than it’s worth ensuring compatibility.

Prob won’t be long before people are developing their own apps to connect to cars etc

 

[apj0524]

I don't get it. The threads about EVs yet a 3rd of the posts are from the anti EV brigade with outdated views and misinformation.

Everytime the thread comes up you get a few derailers who want to say why they still don't want an EV. How X and y doesn't suit..nothing changing from before adding zero to the discussion just boosting their post count.

One of the Few posters with real bad issue with an EV that's worth listening to is @cliveb . Actual real world experience of a bad issue with his daughter. Yet any positive posts are knocked down as "a cult" because it can't be that people actually prefer it than before.

I used to be on a car forum before it closed. Long before EVs and always talked about cars. Yet now it's EV must be a cult

I've driven many cars over the years

Honda civic 51 plate
Mitsubishi colt 06 plate
Mitsubishi lancer 08 plate
Bmw 320d 06 plate
Golf 08 plate
Toyota auris hybrid 11 plate
Honda civic 59 plate
Honda hrv 18 plate
Corsa 20 plate
Seat Alhambra 16 plate
Kia niro 73 plate
Hyundai Kona 20 plate

Apart from the BMW which was very fun to drive the Kia blows them all out of the water

However the Alhambra had more power than the BMW due to upgrade in tech overtime

Ive driven EV since 2020 so 5 years now and I would not return to ice

Sure the savings are great but I prefer the driving and the lack of needing to leave My house to fill up is great.

We have a Kona 22 plate and compared to my Toyota RAV 4 Hybrid its is much more pleasurable to drive, and when we have taken for a journey that the total mileage is greater that its range we have just had to plan for a stop, plus £12 for 285 miles what not to love

 

[Deleted member 35927]

Prob won’t be long before people are developing their own apps to connect to cars etc

They do exist, but it relies on the manufacturer giving access to their API which more and more are stopping.

 

[Burnsey]

I'm not sure what your other point of view is today your post was some nonsnse about losing 46 miles if I pre cool my car. Then it's the tired old trope about the inconvenience of it all.
If you don't want one don't get one , but don't pretend to know what it's like based on stuff you've read on the internet. Ive had 0 issues and have driven to enormous distances, all without little kids!

Had your Haribo and now full of energy for a stab have you?

Petey, my 46 miles was a joke, chill. The inconvenience is real. Glad it works for you, but I can assure you, it does not work for me and that is also the case for a large number of the population.

Spout all you want, but please don't take away our opinions, internet based or otherwise. Now, I will let you run out of steam, as we don't get on, and pop off to watch Tommy Fleetwood hopefully win this tournament.

 

[Deleted member 21784]

They do exist, but it relies on the manufacturer giving access to their API which more and more are stopping.

Octopus found this with their Intelligent go tariff. Car manufacturers restricted access to APIs so instead getting a charger that allows it's API open to octopus is much better. That's why ohme became so popular because people then could get any car that's not compatible with octopus tariff and use it rather than the standard EV tariff and save a bit more per mile.

We have a Kona 22 plate and compared to my Toyota RAV 4 Hybrid its is much more pleasurable to drive, and when we have taken for a journey that the total mileage is greater that its range we have just had to plan for a stop, plus £12 for 285 miles what not to love

I find the Kia such a relaxing place to be. The drive to Disney was comfortable I stepped out the car feeling refreshed. Im still not sure if I'll use the Skoda all the time.. I mean I like new things but I'll still want to use the Kia

 

[Deleted member 35927]

Had your Haribo and now full of energy for a stab have you?

Petey, my 46 miles was a joke, chill. The inconvenience is real. Glad it works for you, but I can assure you, it does not work for me and that is also the case for a large number of the population.

Spout all you want, but please don't take away our opinions, internet based or otherwise. Now, I will let you run out of steam, as we don't get on, and pop off to watch Tommy Fleetwood hopefully win this tournament.

Oh was a joke...

Your opinions are welcome , but they are just that . Whereas many here have several years of real world experience of ev driving and find the stuff spouted about inconvenience and such like are just not there.