The all things EV chat thread

[stevied]

Very relevant
My point was that there is already a pay per mile tax on ICE vehicles.

You may have missed my edit:
“Then the price of the fuel AND the Fuel duty is subject to VAT then a further 10.59p for VAT at 20 per cent on fuel duty”

Yes , i wonder how it can be transferred to EVs. Not easily I'd say

 

[Beezerk]

New company car has officially been ordered but I don't have any kind of delivery date yet.
VW Tiguan 1.5 Tsi eHybrid R Line. Looking forward to driving it
Hopefully this just about fits in with the thread topic

 

[stevied]

New company car has officially been ordered but I don't have any kind of delivery date yet.
VW Tiguan 1.5 Tsi eHybrid R Line. Looking forward to driving it
Hopefully this just about fits in with the thread topic

As long as youre not paying for the fuel id not worry about it. Hybrids are only any good if you charge them assuming it's a phev ? Otherwise you're just lugging batteries and a motor about .

 

[Bunkermagnet]

What infra is that ? You mentioned this the other day.

In this case it's the DVLA and HMRC . Or are you not familiar with how we pay car tax and fuel tax?

 

[stevied]

In this case it's the DVLA and HMRC . Or are you not familiar with how we pay car tax and fuel tax?

So no to this magic infrastructure then , as neither of them know how many miles an EV has been driven and cannot reliably tell either.

 

[larmen]

So no to this magic infrastructure then , as neither of them know how many miles an EV has been driven and cannot reliably tell either.

They take it at the mot, don’t they?

 

[stevied]

They take it at the mot, don’t they?

Yes but thats not reliable.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

So no to this magic infrastructure then , as neither of them know how many miles an EV has been driven and cannot reliably tell either.

Do the cars have apps which can be used to download the millage from ?

 

[Lord Tyrion]

They take it at the mot, don’t they?

Only when the car is 3 years old though. Before then, no MoT of course

 

[Bunkermagnet]

So no to this magic infrastructure then , as neither of them know how many miles an EV has been driven and cannot reliably tell either.

I was referring to petrol and diesel........

 

[jim8flog]

Watched a youtube video today, found out about the Tesla app and how it shows the lifetime charging stats and battery health. Such a cool thing, DC charging isn't good for battery life, AC charging does much less damage. This is a game changer for me, going to start looking at Teslas even though I'm not keen on the interiors. Just need to find one that has been mainly charged at home.

Slow charging will always be better for long term battery life than fast charging.*
Home chargers do not do DC charging.

*Think about that when you charge your phone.

 

[stevied]

Do the cars have apps which can be used to download the millage from ?

Which cars ? Mine can, but not everyone drives a jaaaaaaaag.

 

[jim8flog]

I thought there was already a pay per mile scheme in place for ICE vehicles, it’s called Fuel Duty. (And VAT).

The more you drive the more you pay. Simple’s.

Same applies to EVs (VAT on electricity)

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Which cars ? Mine can, but not everyone drives a jaaaaaaaag.

Don’t all EVs have an app of sort ?

 

[stevied]

I was referring to petrol and diesel........

You said the infra was in place to collect ppm and it will only apply to EVs. You also said this a week or so ago too.

 

[PJ87]

Don’t all EVs have an app of sort ?

No they don't. Some models of car don't include connect services. Some cars don't have an app full stop and the apps of some aren't reliable enough to be dependent upon

 

[stevied]

Don’t all EVs have an app of sort ?

I think most modern cars do. Not sureof you're point though as its not a universal system and easily open to abuse. Just like odometers.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

You said the infra was in place to collect ppm and it will only apply to EVs. You also said this a week or so ago too.

That is what was said on 5live at about 5:45 one morning last week.
As for tonight, read the 3 or so posts before my reply you are confused about.

 

[stevied]

That is what was said on 5live at about 5:45 one morning last week.
As for tonight, read the 3 or so posts before my reply you are confused about.

No confusion , you said the same thing there too. That it will only apply to EVS and the infra is already in place to collect.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

I think most modern cars do. Not sureof you're point though as its not a universal system and easily open to abuse. Just like odometers.

I’m sure if they wanted to charge by the millage there would be ways to have a universal app into a car to collect the required data on a hourly or daily/weekly basis