The all things EV chat thread

[Mudball]

I am 99% sure that doing anything to that fuse is restricted to UKPN.

Application submitted.. now wait and watch. Interesting how they now take video applications. It is interesting how Covid has helped these things. previously there would be survey or another call out. Now its all about submitting a video and few photos.

Having said that, yesterday the Virgin Media engineer turned up. Lovely guy and very helpful. But his opening lines were, 'they did not put any details on the job sheet... what help are you looking for?'... This after having spent 2 hours chatting with them and explaining what i wanted.

 

[jim8flog]

Application submitted.. now wait and watch. Interesting how they now take video applications. It is interesting how Covid has helped these things. previously there would be survey or another call out. Now its all about submitting a video and few photos.

Having said that, yesterday the Virgin Media engineer turned up. Lovely guy and very helpful. But his opening lines were, 'they did not put any details on the job sheet... what help are you looking for?'... This after having spent 2 hours chatting with them and explaining what i wanted.

The pre-fitting of my charger was all done by video call.

 

[PJ87]

Application submitted.. now wait and watch. Interesting how they now take video applications. It is interesting how Covid has helped these things. previously there would be survey or another call out. Now its all about submitting a video and few photos.

Having said that, yesterday the Virgin Media engineer turned up. Lovely guy and very helpful. But his opening lines were, 'they did not put any details on the job sheet... what help are you looking for?'... This after having spent 2 hours chatting with them and explaining what i wanted.

Yeah and the people looking at miss things

My charger they totally missed the loop supply by photos .. even tho the loop was very clearly photographed

 

[Mudball]

The pre-fitting of my charger was all done by video call.

ours is being done as part of a package deal by the Solar company. While they did the building survey and some of the basic electric things (can i see the fuse box), i am not sure they did a full electric pre-survey.
Their sparks were here last week to install some of the stuff but could not complete it. One of them was living under the stairs most of the day, but did not raise any concerns.

I have now asked them... lets see where this goes

 

[PJ87]

@Mudball when is the charger being installed?

Corsa leaves Tuesday.. can't wait!!!!

Kia should be ready Friday but if not we can manage with one car for a few weeks until it's ready

Bye bye pauxhall.. your build quality of cars is awful.

 

[Mandofred]

I thought I was being pretty wise in thinking about going back to a smaller car with a mild hybrid assist (Suzuki Ignis) since we don't drive enough to need our larger car. Turns out the mild hybrid in the Ignis doesn't work if it is remotely cold outside. So my attempt at getting good gas mileage is kind of shot. How a hybrid stops working when it gets much below 10c I just don't get......about to start a fight with people above the dealer trying to just get rid of the car (less than 500 miles on it)....why advertise a city car that has an electric boost and improved mileage if it only works during the summer?

 

[PJ87]

I thought I was being pretty wise in thinking about going back to a smaller car with a mild hybrid assist (Suzuki Ignis) since we don't drive enough to need our larger car. Turns out the mild hybrid in the Ignis doesn't work if it is remotely cold outside. So my attempt at getting good gas mileage is kind of shot. How a hybrid stops working when it gets much below 10c I just don't get......about to start a fight with people above the dealer trying to just get rid of the car (less than 500 miles on it)....why advertise a city car that has an electric boost and improved mileage if it only works during the summer?

I'd strongly question that with the dealer because you have been missold if true


My toyota auris hybrid was good in winter .. regular 65 mpg

 

[Mandofred]

I'd strongly question that with the dealer because you have been missold if true


My toyota auris hybrid was good in winter .. regular 65 mpg

Took the car in on Tuesday.....40 min drive to the York dealer. Car had 0 degrees, dealer says -2.....whatever. Service head guy hopped straight in the car when I got there and tested it....seemed surprised when the hybrid wouldn't work. 2 hours later....service guy who looked at the car and put it through the computer says everything is within perameters and is fine. Their excuse is the engine coolant and battery temp needed to be within perameters to work.....no idea what those temps needed to be although I've asked. I would've thought that a 40 minute drive at even 0c degrees would more than warm a car up.

I actually liked the car when we test drove it and then when we picked it up about 7 November. By the end of November it was starting to not work. Now?.....just doesn't. Without the hybrid working the car is really underpowered.....with 82 hp. The mild hybrid when it was working only makes a little difference in power but it was fairly noticable and the engine ran a little quieter.

My arguments when I take it to a higher level are these....unless you can think of something else....
1. The Ignis is sold as a city car with a mild hybrid that helps with acceleration and fuel economy. Nowhere does it say if the weather is remotely cold it stops working.
2. Supposed to get over 50mpg.....I'm just starting a "real" check at the moment (filling and doing the math by hand)..which will take a few weeks to get a result. At the moment I was getting 41mpg.
3. To me the whole point of a city car is that it will likely make mostly short trips....for me, 1.5 miles to Asda and anywhere from 2.5 to the nearest golf course and just under 14 miles to another golf course. If the hybrid won't "warm up" on these trips.....it's kind of worthless. It should work as soon as I start the car.
4. If the hybrid will only work when the battery and coolant temps are warm enough....does that mean the cars hybrid system will only work during the warmer half of the year?

 

[PJ87]

Took the car in on Tuesday.....40 min drive to the York dealer. Car had 0 degrees, dealer says -2.....whatever. Service head guy hopped straight in the car when I got there and tested it....seemed surprised when the hybrid wouldn't work. 2 hours later....service guy who looked at the car and put it through the computer says everything is within perameters and is fine. Their excuse is the engine coolant and battery temp needed to be within perameters to work.....no idea what those temps needed to be although I've asked. I would've thought that a 40 minute drive at even 0c degrees would more than warm a car up.

I actually liked the car when we test drove it and then when we picked it up about 7 November. By the end of November it was starting to not work. Now?.....just doesn't. Without the hybrid working the car is really underpowered.....with 82 hp. The mild hybrid when it was working only makes a little difference in power but it was fairly noticable and the engine ran a little quieter.

My arguments when I take it to a higher level are these....unless you can think of something else....
1. The Ignis is sold as a city car with a mild hybrid that helps with acceleration and fuel economy. Nowhere does it say if the weather is remotely cold it stops working.
2. Supposed to get over 50mpg.....I'm just starting a "real" check at the moment (filling and doing the math by hand)..which will take a few weeks to get a result. At the moment I was getting 41mpg.
3. To me the whole point of a city car is that it will likely make mostly short trips....for me, 1.5 miles to Asda and anywhere from 2.5 to the nearest golf course and just under 14 miles to another golf course. If the hybrid won't "warm up" on these trips.....it's kind of worthless. It should work as soon as I start the car.
4. If the hybrid will only work when the battery and coolant temps are warm enough....does that mean the cars hybrid system will only work during the warmer half of the year?

I'd would start the process of rejecting the car under unfit for purpose if it truly doesn't work in the cold, because that's completely useless

For reference my 2011 hybrid I took out in snow upt nrth and it was working fine

Find it weird they wouldn't work at all in the cold

 

[Mandofred]

I'd would start the process of rejecting the car under unfit for purpose if it truly doesn't work in the cold, because that's completely useless

For reference my 2011 hybrid I took out in snow upt nrth and it was working fine

Find it weird they wouldn't work at all in the cold

They may have given themselves an almost invisible loop hole in the manual.....which of course you don't see until you get the car. There are two little details that state that the hybrid might not work if the engine coolant and battery temps don't fit within specs. No description of what those are. I think I have a battle coming.......

 

[Lord Tyrion]

They may have given themselves an almost invisible loop hole in the manual.....which of course you don't see until you get the car. There are two little details that state that the hybrid might not work if the engine coolant and battery temps don't fit within specs. No description of what those are. I think I have a battle coming.......

My sister has a Yaris hybrid, lives in Cheshire so similar weather, and it works as it should in winter, same as the rest of the year. The comments from the dealer sound evasive and not great. The car should be working correctly, it isn't

 

[PJ87]

My sister has a Yaris hybrid, lives in Cheshire so similar weather, and it works as it should in winter, same as the rest of the year. The comments from the dealer sound evasive and not great. The car should be working correctly, it isn't

Problem I've got is all my hybrid experience is one brand (Toyota) I got one in 2011 and it impressed my family so much my dad got one months later then few years later got the estate (so him and mum have them) then my sister got a Yaris

For what it is worth they all still have them with no plans to change

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Problem I've got is all my hybrid experience is one brand (Toyota) I got one in 2011 and it impressed my family so much my dad got one months later then few years later got the estate (so him and mum have them) then my sister got a Yaris

For what it is worth they all still have them with no plans to change

Toyota certainly know how to make them. It's a shame that type of car wasn't given more of a chance.

 

[PJ87]

Toyota certainly know how to make them. It's a shame that type of car wasn't given more of a chance.

I'd flip it on it's head and say it's a shame the manufacturers weren't more responsible and made more hybrid cars as standard...

Volvo did It few years ago

Maybe we wouldn't be facing this mess now if BMW and Merc had built a few hybrids

 

[Mandofred]

I'd probably buy something like a Yaris, but one of my requirements these days is I want a seating position that isn't too low (and can fit golf clubs etc in the back). Just an inflexible old fart these days....the Suzuki Vitara and the Ignis have a higher seating and are easy for me to get in. The Polo we had before the Vitara......was often a real chore to get into for me. I've had 2 Toyota's in the past....Lite Ace van while in Okinawa (lots of room for scuba stuff) and a Windom (also likely a Far East model)....both worked great.

 

[PJ87]

I'd probably buy something like a Yaris, but one of my requirements these days is I want a seating position that isn't too low (and can fit golf clubs etc in the back). Just an inflexible old fart these days....the Suzuki Vitara and the Ignis have a higher seating and are easy for me to get in. The Polo we had before the Vitara......was often a real chore to get into for me. I've had 2 Toyota's in the past....Lite Ace van while in Okinawa (lots of room for scuba stuff) and a Windom (also likely a Far East model)....both worked great.

I found the Toyota very cramped inside. Seating was ok but when it came to us having kids just getting 1 car seat in was ridiculous.. so much space lost

Boot wasnt all that either

 

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That's in the US where they love their gas guzzlers, hardly surprising when they only pay 50p-60p per litre and the large distances they travel.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

They may have given themselves an almost invisible loop hole in the manual.....which of course you don't see until you get the car. There are two little details that state that the hybrid might not work if the engine coolant and battery temps don't fit within specs. No description of what those are. I think I have a battle coming.......

Is the Ignis a full hybrid, or mild hybrid?
My Mazda 3 is classed as mild hybrid, but the stop start doesn’t activate if either the engine oil, coolant or battery state are at the required levels. My VWvTransporter stop start is also battery level dependant.
I would only class mild hybrid as anything other than a help for economy, nothing more.

 

[Mandofred]

Is the Ignis a full hybrid, or mild hybrid?
My Mazda 3 is classed as mild hybrid, but the stop start doesn’t activate if either the engine oil, coolant or battery state are at the required levels. My VWvTransporter stop start is also battery level dependant.
I would only class mild hybrid as anything other than a help for economy, nothing more.

Mild hybrid. It's just supposed to help a little with acceleration and gas mileage. It certainly helps with the power when it works, and it keeps the engine noise down as well....it's a CVT, so fairly noisy in general. I don't care that much about the mileage, we don't drive anough to really care about that too much. My main complaint is a fairly simple one.....the Ignis is advertised as a city car with a mild hybrid to help with power and mileage....but it doesn't work if the outside temps are much below 10C. What's the point then? A city car (which means short trips) that the hybrid won't work half of the year. Just got it in November....worked fine for the first few weeks, but the weather was pretty mild.