Subscriptions for membership 2023.

[fundy]

Surely clubs will be fine, cant be more than year when everywhere was full, waiting lists were everywhere, joining fees were being (re)introduced, prices were raised, green fees not needed (or wanted) by many clubs and members etc. Lets hope for members some of these clubs are as healthy a year or two later..........

 

[Oddsocks]

But wages are not going up by 10% so who loses out? Usually the paying customer. Also, just because items such as chemicals and machinery have gone up by 10% doesn't mean the club need 10% additional gross income. Do you think these clubs would lower fee's if there was deflation? Not a chance

As mentioned on a previous post the increase has tipped me and around 7 others over the edge and encouraged us the move to another (better) club as its now the same price. Ironically, the 8 of us leaving will cost the club £9200. So instead of trying to squeeze another £1800 out of 8 members they are losing 9k. With no waiting list for a 5 day too there's no one to fill our shoe's either.
This morning one of the green keepers also said people are removing themselves from the waiting list (for a 7 day).

This is where the fairy tail ends.
8 loyal members leave and are replaced with 8 new members who may only be there 1-2 years before moving on, this the cycle continues.

I’m hearing of clubs restricting spaces for reduced category members in favour of full 7 day members, one in particular will only allow 1 reduced category member for every 9 full seven days.

I also know of another club which has junior to 18yrs (subsidised) then 18+ full paying.

Both clubs have waiting lists and both clubs consistently reinvest in the course. Says it all.

 

[GB72]

This is where the fairy tail ends.
8 loyal members leave and are replaced with 8 new members who may only be there 1-2 years before moving on, this the cycle continues.

I’m hearing of clubs restricting spaces for reduced category members in favour of full 7 day members, one in particular will only allow 1 reduced category member for every 9 full seven days.

I also know of another club which has junior to 18yrs (subsidised) then 18+ full paying.

Both clubs have waiting lists and both clubs consistently reinvest in the course. Says it all.

Reduced category members are a thing of the past at my old club. OK there are senior and junior discounts but, aside from that, you are a member paying one fee irrespective of when or how oftern you play so no 5 day membership options. Actually I was quite in favour of that. Totally selfishly I saw that I was paying the highest amount to play once a week so I was happy for those playing 5 days a week to be paying the same.

 

[hovis]

This is where the fairy tail ends.
8 loyal members leave and are replaced with 8 new members who may only be there 1-2 years before moving on, this the cycle continues.

I’m hearing of clubs restricting spaces for reduced category members in favour of full 7 day members, one in particular will only allow 1 reduced category member for every 9 full seven days.

I also know of another club which has junior to 18yrs (subsidised) then 18+ full paying.

Both clubs have waiting lists and both clubs consistently reinvest in the course. Says it all.

I wanted to join a very good club by me. I was set to pull the trigger on a 5 day when I was informed that the 5 day was being removed as its most likely that people will just pay the extra for a 7 day if that's my only option. I didn't join.

Most of these clubs are living in a false world where golf is popular. They forget that only 2 years ago they where practically begging on Facebook for members. If they needed members before covid they'll need them after. The bubble will burst and they'll come back "cap in hand" desperately needing new members again

 

[GB72]

Many years ago when I was looking to move to a different part of the country, I contacted a course about membership advising I was joining on my own and could only play at weekends. I was told that I would be expected to joing as a 5 day member for a few years and had to accept that I would not be able to play unless a full member invited me to pay a green fee at the weekend. After a few years of that, I would be considered for full membership but not guaranteed. Basically I was told I had to pay them for 3 years whilst being unable to actually play the course then I may be allowed a membership that allowed me to actually use it, unless I was a county golfer and then I could have a full membership straight away.

 

[Oddsocks]

Reduced category members are a thing of the past at my old club. OK there are senior and junior discounts but, aside from that, you are a member paying one fee irrespective of when or how oftern you play so no 5 day membership options. Actually I was quite in favour of that. Totally selfishly I saw that I was paying the highest amount to play once a week so I was happy for those playing 5 days a week to be paying the same.

Likewise- 5 day members playing every other day or four times a week at 900 while I was paying 1600 to play once a week.

 

[Oddsocks]

Many years ago when I was looking to move to a different part of the country, I contacted a course about membership advising I was joining on my own and could only play at weekends. I was told that I would be expected to joing as a 5 day member for a few years and had to accept that I would not be able to play unless a full member invited me to pay a green fee at the weekend. After a few years of that, I would be considered for full membership but not guaranteed. Basically I was told I had to pay them for 3 years whilst being unable to actually play the course then I may be allowed a membership that allowed me to actually use it, unless I was a county golfer and then I could have a full membership straight away.

Should have applied from a relatives address to get county level access

 

[hovis]

Many years ago when I was looking to move to a different part of the country, I contacted a course about membership advising I was joining on my own and could only play at weekends. I was told that I would be expected to joing as a 5 day member for a few years and had to accept that I would not be able to play unless a full member invited me to pay a green fee at the weekend. After a few years of that, I would be considered for full membership but not guaranteed. Basically I was told I had to pay them for 3 years whilst being unable to actually play the course then I may be allowed a membership that allowed me to actually use it, unless I was a county golfer and then I could have a full membership straight away.

That's how beau desert in cannock Still operate. People pay the money too ?

 

[GB72]

That's how beau desert in cannock Still operate. People pay the money too ?

It was Beau Desert, when I nearly moved to Lichfield

 

[hovis]

It was Beau Desert, when I nearly moved to Lichfield

? What are the chances

 

[GB72]

Should have applied from a relatives address to get county level access

Sorry, was not clear. I had to play golf for the County

 

[D-S]

Giving away green fee vouchers is not an almost cost free solution for clubs. We did this once giving away 4 vouchers valid for 12 months and our member guest income decreased by £28k that year and members who weren't 'guest bringers' were not happy as it was not much of a gift for them.

 

[Oddsocks]

Sorry, was not clear. I had to play golf for the County

Check you out ?

 

[bobmac]

I was toying with the idea of joining somewhere next year but I won't be able to afford it come April

 

[Yorkhacker]

Check you out ?

I think he means that he would have had to play golf for the county, not that he did play golf for the county

 

[GB72]

I think he means that he would have had to play golf for the county, not that he did play golf for the county

This is correct and will remain so until County golf standards drop to accepting 18 handicap, unfit 50 year olds.

 

[Oddsocks]

This is correct and will remain so until County golf standards drop to accepting 18 handicap, unfit 50 year olds.

Surely you can charm your way in…

 

[Oddsocks]

I was toying with the idea of joining somewhere next year but I won't be able to afford it come April

Only because the reduced dinosaur rates have been blocked at most clubs ?

 

[Bobthesock]

I can cope with a bit of a rise. I told them I was 5 years younger than I am when I signed up so get 9 years at young adult rate instead of 4.
Absolute masterstroke that was

 

[Mandofred]

Only because the reduced dinosaur rates have been blocked at most clubs ?

The dinosaur rates that keep the club going........keep ignoring the older dependable members at the clubs doooooooom. Make it hard for me....and this dinosaur is more than happy to find something else to do......