Stableford mess up

[Three]

And with regards to the timing, all that is needed is a quick nod from a starter, pro shop staff, committee member etc etc to authorise a change of tee time and they're good to go.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Obviously he wasn't as he thought he was hitting his first tee shot.

This is a key point, I suspect that in pretty much every rule infringement (apart from blatant cheating) the perpetrator thought he was doing the right thing.

 

[guest100718]

This is a key point, I suspect that in pretty much every rule infringement (apart from blatant cheating) the perpetrator thought he was doing the right thing.

You probably should have put some thought into that

 

[Colin L]

Whilst not 'related', the two breaches are the result of a single act so it single penalty

But starting too early is one thing- starting before your time. The stroke you make for your start is a separate matter. Or would you say that if I start 3 minutes early, play from within the teeing ground and put my ball out of bounds, I incur a 2 stroke penalty but can put another ball into play without a stroke penalty?

 

[chrisd]

And with regards to the timing, all that is needed is a quick nod from a starter, pro shop staff, committee member etc etc to authorise a change of tee time and they're good to go.

He was the Chairman of Golf!

 

[duncan mackie]

But starting too early is one thing- starting before your time. The stroke you make for your start is a separate matter. Or would you say that if I start 3 minutes early, play from within the teeing ground and put my ball out of bounds, I incur a 2 stroke penalty but can put another ball into play without a stroke penalty?

I'm confused! Are you suggesting that if he had teed up a ball before his starting time but not made a stroke at it he would have been subject to penalty for starting early?

 

[duncan mackie]

This is a key point, I suspect that in pretty much every rule infringement (apart from blatant cheating) the perpetrator thought he was doing the right thing.

Not the same thing at all.

 

[Colin L]

I'm confused! Are you suggesting that if he had teed up a ball before his starting time but not made a stroke at it he would have been subject to penalty for starting early?

Of course not. I'm reasoning that although you clearly start your round by making a stroke you aren't exempt from any penalty relating to that stroke just because you made it earlier than you should have and are being penalised for that.

 

[rulefan]

Colin

On second thoughts. 1-4/12(2).

The player makes a stroke. He makes it too soon and from outside the teeing ground.

One act, two rules - single penalty[FONT=Alegreya Sans, sans-serif].[/FONT]

 

[Colin L]

Colin

On second thoughts. 1-4/12(2).

The player makes a stroke. He makes it too soon and from outside the teeing ground.

One act, two rules - single penalty[FONT=Alegreya Sans, sans-serif].[/FONT]

A player makes a stroke. He makes it too soon and puts his ball out of bounds. One act, two rules - single penalty?
A player makes a stroke too soon and hits an overhead power line. He must cancel the stroke and play again. By the time he plays again he does so at the appointed hour. No penalty?
A player makes a stroke too soon from outside the teeing ground with a non-conforming club........?? (Ok that's getting a bit fanciful!)

I'm willing to hear what you and Duncan are saying, but struggling to see starting too early as other than separate from whatever the outcome of the first stroke might be. Starting too early/too late is a situation rather than an action.

 

[drdel]

Since he had put a ball in play he should continue until he reaches the correct green!!