Slow Play!!

[JustOne]

If it doesnt reach you, its not a problem, why make it one?

Therefore if I spit at you and it doesn't make it then it's OK, right?

It's not right to hit the ball up the backside of the person in front even if you think it's going to land 20 yards short. You should wait until they've hit and moved on, afterall where else are they going to go?

 

[JustOne]

my pet hate as to slow play is when it comes to putting people seem to take forever over putts walk around the green studying this that and the other unless there is a definite slope must puts are straight ish,

....and that's why your a 14 handicapper.

Wait until you only have a few shots to play with and the putts HAVE to go in.

 

[clubchamp07]

If you'd have said that to me you don't even want to know what I'd have said back..... it would start with an F.

Race round the course if you feel like it, that's your perogative, but don't judge anyone else on their play. Yes 1 hour 45 is quicker but 2 hours is hardly slow.

Out of interest do you RUN everywhere you go?

You must be one of the slow players, You should never swear on a golf course,

you would only use the F word once!

 

[mono217]

That is why it is a muni

 

[nulassilb]

My two ball this morning was reasonably quick. We had no-one in front and no-one behind. Just under 3 hours for a short 18 hole course. What was enjoyable was playing at a comfortable pace - establishing our rhythm and not having to change it. I think recognising that this is the ideal and that what you do can impact on others is vital. When we got to the 10th, a two-ball had just nipped ahead. They were planning to play a loop of two holes before beginning a match. They realised that we were continuing so invited us to tee off. We changed our pace to get through them - and even though it only lasted for one hole - we both played the hole poorly. All golfers should do their best not to obviously interrupt the pace of others. Annoyingly quick or annoyingly slow - both harm no-one when the course is empty but both can jarr against the rhythm of others on the course and this is where upset can set in.

 

[Leftie]

Yesterday, I had the pleasure of hosting Mark Jessop (the guy in a GM article that played all the courses in W Yorks and is now halfway through N Yorks) at my club. We teed off at 7.30 (ungodly, but this is what happens with a Seniors match on!) and neither of us played well over the 1st 3 holes with a bit of ball searching on one hole and some tree-based jiggery-pokery on another. However, we were not remotely slow.

On the 4th (a par 3) we were both by the greenside off the tee. Mark played his chip and I prepared to play my bunker shot but had to wait for him to mark his ball. While we did this, we continued our chat about his quest. Before I was even clear to play my shot, some ignorant (and I feel I must add short and old) oik hollered across from the 3rd fairway "get a move on, you're holding everyone up, play faster".

Very rare indeed on this forum for someone to complain that they were slower than the seniors playing in a match behind and were actually castigated by them for slow play. Motorised zimmer frames eh? Whatever next? Seniors running round the course?

To be fair though. I suppose the problem is that the seniors don't hit the ball far enough to lose it. If you were looking for lost balls and playing about in the trees, shouldn't you have called the old gits through?

If, as the "oik" said you were holding everyone up, why does that make him ignorant and what relevance is there in your comment that he was short and old? I'm short and old and would probably be tempted to lay one on you if you called me an ignorant git for pointing out that as (it seems) you were a 2 ball you were holding up seniors matches behind you. Were they 3 or 4 ball?

It does seem however that you got the message as you were about 1 hole clear by the 9th.

I think that you have let yourself down there matey.

 

[Herbie]

If it doesnt reach you, its not a problem, why make it one?

Therefore if I spit at you and it doesn't make it then it's OK, right?

It's not right to hit the ball up the backside of the person in front even if you think it's going to land 20 yards short. You should wait until they've hit and moved on, afterall where else are they going to go?

That has got to be the daftest analogy I have heard in a long time.???Also, who said anything about hitting before they have played???? You obviously want me to wait until you are, what? 100 yds clear of my range, 200 hundred....what?????
clear of the green on a par five before I tee off??? You must be responsible for some pretty frequent slows in play?
If you spit at me, you are a filthy discusting person regardless and to think of doing such a thing is no different, if your intent was to spit at me, it would not matter if you hit me or not, you would not be smiling at the outcome I could assure you!
My intent when teeing off is to hit a golf ball x-number of yards down the fairway and NOT hit anyone.
Please explain to me how long I should wait and what distance the group ahead should be before I tee up????


Unbelievable some people???

 

[Region3]

what really annoys me is the player who waits for the green to clear when its 230 yards+ and they have just hit there drive 100 yards,see it almost every week.

Would it annoy you any less if the same person chose to play and hit their best shot ever that hit you in the back of the head as you putted out?

The problem is when people can take a lay up from 230 with the group in front on the green, so by doing so they can let the people behind tee off, rather than watch said person take 15 practice swings going for the green only to watch them hook it 160 yards if they are lucky!

Why should anyone change the shot they want to play just so you can tee off quicker?

Why don't you take a 5 iron off the tee instead so you don't reach them?

There are only 2 situations I can think of in my life where I let myself be intimidated into changing my behaviour. When I 'believe' (I say that because as someone else pointed out, it's probably not always the case) the group behind me are pressuring me to play faster, and when driving and the car behind me is too close for the speed and conditions.
Neither does any good for what I'm trying to do at the time.

I must also say that I'm shocked at the number of people on this thread that have hinted that they would hit someone for such little provocation.

 

[Imurg]

Please explain to me how long I should wait and what distance the group ahead should be before I tee up????

Far enough ahead so that even if you hit the best shot your body could possibly hit there is no way on earth that you could reach them.

Simples.

 

[toonarmy]

Very rare indeed on this forum for someone to complain that they were slower than the seniors playing in a match behind and were actually castigated by them for slow play.

Read again. We weren't holding anyone up at all. The idiot shouted at us for his perception that we were talking and not playing. We were not slower and I was complaining about rudeness, not pace of play.

If you were looking for lost balls and playing about in the trees, shouldn't you have called the old gits through?

Had we been losing any ground or indeed had anyone waiting behind us to play, then yes. Had you paid more attention to the post however, you would see that we were not holding anyone up at all so no-one to call through.

If, as the "oik" said you were holding everyone up, why does that make him ignorant

Because we weren't and there is no place for shouting at all. If he really wanted to make a point, he could have walked the 40yds over to us. Had he done so, he may even have realised that we were playing at a reasonable pace.

and what relevance is there in your comment that he was short and old? I'm short and old and would probably be tempted to lay one on you if you called me an ignorant git for pointing out that as (it seems) you were a 2 ball you were holding up seniors matches behind you. Were they 3 or 4 ball?

In answer to the first point, Napoleon complex. Your second, only if you could reach and thirdly we weren't holding anyone up!

It does seem however that you got the message as you were about 1 hole clear by the 9th.

Or...we were still playing at the same pace and they were no nearer than before.

I think that you have let yourself down there matey.

And I think that perhaps you should read more carefully before jumping in

 

[haplesshacker]

Please explain to me how long I should wait and what distance the group ahead should be before I tee up????

Far enough ahead so that even if you hit the best shot your body could possibly hit there is no way on earth that you could reach them.

Simples.

And that is where, for us inconsistent hitters, it becomes a problem. On a good day my 3 wood will do 250, on a bad bay 20! The problem comes when I stand on the tee, waiting for the group ahead to be 'out of range' for the good shot, and when I do hit the ball, it only goes 150 for example. At this point I just know that the group behind us waiting on the tee are tutting like mad!

Perhaps I'm just very sensitive to how others perceive me, or perhaps I'm more concerned that I look a prat regarding my ability. Perhaps it's because I don't want to be labelled as a slow player. And hitting a tee shot 150, after waiting for the group ahead to clear 250 plus.

I'm sure that there are some on here that would tut disapproving at me or anyone else for waiting, regardless of the dire tee shot that follows!

Just as an example, I don't know how it happened but I nailed my 5 iron 225 yards at the PGA Nat last week. That did take me and the group in front by surprise!

 

[grumpyjock]

The waiting times may vary but if you arrive on the tee and the group in front are teing off then its 7,8 or 10 mins until you can tee off. Thats why there is the interval between tee times.
At St Andrews its 10mins and the front group may then be on the green before you are allowed to tee off no exceptions.
If you can keep the same time ratio beteen groups then its a fair round of golf. But if you wish to race around then pick a time when the course is empty.

 

[JustOne]

And that is where, for us inconsistent hitters, it becomes a problem. On a good day my 3 wood will do 250, on a bad bay 20! The problem comes when I stand on the tee, waiting for the group ahead to be 'out of range' for the good shot, and when I do hit the ball, it only goes 150 for example. At this point I just know that the group behind us waiting on the tee are tutting like mad!

Not me mate. I completely respect people who wait until the players ahead are out of range for the shot they are attempting - even if they then go on to duff it, that's what golf is all about..... anything less just isn't tennis

 

[Fyldewhite]

When playing any shot it goes without saying that you wait until the group in front are out of range. However, if they are just a few yards further or still on the green when you are planning on laying up 20 yards short then it is just good manners to wait until they have played their shots and are moving on. Nobody wants to hear a ball land 20 yards away when you are on your backswing or over a 3 foot putt. This is one of the commonest annoyances that so called 'fast' players are guilty of. There's a fine line between quick, impatient and downright inconsiderate.

 

[haplesshacker]

When playing any shot it goes without saying that you wait until the group in front are out of range. However, if they are just a few yards further or still on the green when you are planning on laying up 20 yards short then it is just good manners to wait until they have played their shots and are moving on. Nobody wants to hear a ball land 20 yards away when you are on your backswing or over a 3 foot putt. This is one of the commonest annoyances that so called 'fast' players are guilty of. There's a fine line between quick, impatient and downright inconsiderate.

I'd go along with that. It's very annoying.

 

[Herbie]

Please explain to me how long I should wait and what distance the group ahead should be before I tee up????

Far enough ahead so that even if you hit the best shot your body could possibly hit there is no way on earth that you could reach them.

Simples.

Exactly! and most experienced golfers know their limits.

 

[viscount17]

hh, I rely on your gentlemanly discretion to pull a veil over that debacle.

 

[Sneds]

I must also say that I'm shocked at the number of people on this thread that have hinted that they would hit someone for such little provocation.

I wouldn't take too much notice about this. The internet has a tendency to turn some people's personalities to the extreme x

 

[clubchamp07]

European Tour player Eirik Tage Johansen has been fined for slow play for the second week running - and this time it was £4,000.

The 27-year-old Norwegian was penalised £500 at last week's KLM Open in Holland after being put on the clock for the 12th occasion this season.

Then, in the Johnnie Walker Championship at Gleneagles, he took 19 seconds too long over a tee shot during his second round and because it was his second "bad time" of the year he was fined £4,000.

"A slow player tightens the noose around his own neck," said the Tour's senior referee Andy McFee.

"If he has another bad time it would be £6,000."

The Tour's record fine for slow play was the £8,000 given to England's Simon Khan at the 2005 Irish Open - a week after he had been punished £4,000.

There you go, should be more handed out