JT77
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apologies if this has been done but just read he could face a tour ban for his mistake other week where he touched the line of his putt and signed for a wrong score. bit harsh?
thoughts?
thoughts?
simon dyson
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It wasn't a surreptitious bit of cheating, like the ball marking scandal the other year, it just appeared to be an aberration.
I don't know of any other issues with Dyson in the past, and I understand he accepted the punishment without question.
So, in my opinion a ban would be harsh, afterall he's been DQ'd, lost out on money, lost out on points etc.
I don't know of any other issues with Dyson in the past, and I understand he accepted the punishment without question.
So, in my opinion a ban would be harsh, afterall he's been DQ'd, lost out on money, lost out on points etc.
john0
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More than a bit harsh!
Hopefully the sad little man (or woman) sitting at home in front of the TV who phoned up to report it will be happy with their work now!
Hopefully the sad little man (or woman) sitting at home in front of the TV who phoned up to report it will be happy with their work now!
that would be uber harsh, got a link to the explanation?
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Personally I think the disqualification from the event was enough. If they ban him for 3 months then they had better be very consistent in the future. He made a mistake and that should be the end of the matter.
ADB
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I believe it is a 'process' that has to be followed following a rule break DQ. Hopefully should be a minor sanction, but nothing too dramatic.
JT77
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sorry on my phone in work lol
bbc sports had the story.
bbc sports had the story.
Stub
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Cannot believe that sanctions over and above his DQ from the tournament are being considered in circumstances where he admitted his mistake, accepted his DQ, and made clear it was unintentional...and I have seen no evidence to the contrary.
No wonder golf has a reputation as a sport run by old farts!
No wonder golf has a reputation as a sport run by old farts!
Think its connected to the European Tour disciplinary code of conduct and such transgressions start a disciplinary wheel in motion although there is the option within this to issue a warning etc so a ban would seem to be unlikely and would set an unwanted precedent for the future. Can't see it coming to anything
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In this morning's DT there is a suggestion that this may not exactly be a " first offence".
If so then any other "offences" need to be made public before the authorities apply any sanctions.
If so then any other "offences" need to be made public before the authorities apply any sanctions.
BTatHome
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Why do you think the other "offences" need to be public? This is a disciplinary procedure, there should be no requirement on them to make it transparent in huge public view.
Doon frae Troon
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Followed Simon's career since he was an England Scoolboy captain.
Nice lad and good player.
That said I think there are probably a few on here who will know when they have made a conscious effort to tap down a spike mark in a medal.
Nice lad and good player.
That said I think there are probably a few on here who will know when they have made a conscious effort to tap down a spike mark in a medal.
jimbob.someroo
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I think it's very harsh and without being too dramatic, something which will only serve to put off more young people picking up the sport.
Disqualified from the tour and faces a massive loss in earnings for an error, for which he was already punished and DQ'd from the comp.
Imagine doing that in a monthly medal (either by accident or deliberately) and being banned from all club and county comps.
Young people will read this and shirk at the absurdity - and it will put people off taking up golf as a hobby. Luis Suarez bit someone, was banned for a set number of games, and then allowed to play after serving his ban. He wasn't expelled from British football and not allowed to return. Daft.
Disqualified from the tour and faces a massive loss in earnings for an error, for which he was already punished and DQ'd from the comp.
Imagine doing that in a monthly medal (either by accident or deliberately) and being banned from all club and county comps.
Young people will read this and shirk at the absurdity - and it will put people off taking up golf as a hobby. Luis Suarez bit someone, was banned for a set number of games, and then allowed to play after serving his ban. He wasn't expelled from British football and not allowed to return. Daft.
BTatHome
Tour Winner
If the further "offences" are substantiated then it'll be valid to ban him.
Matty
Tour Rookie
Video clip of the infringement here:
http://www.golfcentraldaily.com/2013/10/video-simon-dyson-dq-incident-at-bmw.html
Certainly it's a DQ for pressing something down on the line of his putt.
But, unless he has already been DQ for such things several times before I think a ban would be extremely harsh and I wouldn't be surprise if he appealed and any ban was over turned.
http://www.golfcentraldaily.com/2013/10/video-simon-dyson-dq-incident-at-bmw.html
Certainly it's a DQ for pressing something down on the line of his putt.
But, unless he has already been DQ for such things several times before I think a ban would be extremely harsh and I wouldn't be surprise if he appealed and any ban was over turned.
CheltenhamHacker
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Huh? I think you're being very dramatic. I would put money on that there is no child in the UK desperate to play golf who would read about this (odds on them actually reading about it without already being keen?!) who then completely changes their sport.
I don't get your reference to Luis Suarez either? Is this not the same thing, such that he is banned for X number of weeks? (Genuinly don't know the protocal of this, so this is a question.) I can't imagine they would completely ban him for life for this?! The BBC article just says COULD. Doesn't say that is what they are going to do. Shock journalism.
jimbob.someroo
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Fair, but I said that the only out come with reference to people picking up the game would be that less would be inclined to do so. It's not going to encourage people to get involved if they are outcast for any misdemeanor
Agree that it's shock journalism, but being kicked off the tour shouldn't even be on the table. It is a three month ban which is being discussed, the same which Elliot Saltman was given in 2010 for deliberately marking his ball incorrectly 5 times. A three month ban is a potential multimillion pound loss of earnings and far too severe for something for which he's already been punished IMO. Suarez was still paid by his club during his 10 game ban (roughly the same length of time) and surely biting someone is worse than tapping down a spike mark - although admittedly probably a poor example as its hard to compare across sports.
I just think it sets a dangerous precedent for something which wasn't necessarily deliberate cheating. Dyson is alright financially, but it could bankrupt a lesser / younger tour pro. I know that our game is built on rules which aren't always the easiest to understand, but think that this should have been nipped in the bud with the DQ from the last event. Otherwise it'll turn into another Vijay Singh-esq farce.
bladeplayer
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is it ?
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But if they are not made public how will anyone know if they are substantiated?
BTatHome
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Well unless your being invited to the committee to decide on the outcome then knowing the details is not going to make any difference.
