simon dyson

Well unless your being invited to the committee to decide on the outcome then knowing the details is not going to make any difference.

The basis of this thread is,apparently, whether further punishment would be deemed too harsh.

How can that be assessed if details of any other alleged offences are kept secret.
 
If he is guilty of further offences then I'm sure it will come out but I can't see why it would be released to the public domain beforehand ... if it was released and then he was not guilty then he would be able to sue for defamation of character.

At the end of all this if the tour decide to keep it all a secret then so be it, we the public have no "right" to hear such information.
 
Certainly it's a DQ for pressing something down on the line of his putt.


Right to question that bladeplayer. It isn't DQ for pressing something down on the line of his putt. It's DQ because he didn't apply the penalty and therefore signed for a wrong score.

An imbalance is really beginning to show in the game. What if he hadn't been getting filmed at the time? Would it have been picked up? Why was Tiger allowed to review the ball moving at the BMW before he signed his card? etc etc etc. The list could go on.
 
If he is guilty of further offences then I'm sure it will come out but I can't see why it would be released to the public domain beforehand ... if it was released and then he was not guilty then he would be able to sue for defamation of character.

At the end of all this if the tour decide to keep it all a secret then so be it, we the public have no "right" to hear such information.

He certainly could not sue for defamation if he was charged by the Tour with an offence and full disciplinary procedures were complied with, even if the charges were made public.
Same as many other professional bodies.
He would still be considered innocent until proven otherwise.
Concealment and obfuscation is far more likely to give rise to speculation and, thus, possible defamation.
 
More than a bit harsh!

Hopefully the sad little man (or woman) sitting at home in front of the TV who phoned up to report it will be happy with their work now!

So a professional golfer gains an advantage on his fellow competitors by breaking the rules of golf and you seem fit to criticize the person who pointed it out.
You seem to have strange standards.
 
I'm sure if there are other offences and the Tour imposes further sanctions then I am sure it will make public the reasons for their actions. Until then, I would imagine it will stay private until Dyson attends the hearing. Even if there is "previous" I doubt he'll get chucked off the tour permanently.
 
Surely Dyson would be aware that the line between he's ball and the cup cant be tampered with, this guy is an elite golfer and this stuff is the basics. It seems like a momentary lapse in concentration has happened here but at that level is that acceptable?.I can really see why the Euro tour are making a big deal of this he's a top player and he should know, what example will they set to other tour players if they "let him off"? I personally think that what he did warrants a ban,a message has to be sent to other tour guys that this is not acceptable at this level, that is the whole point of having rules for the game of golf.
 
They didn't "let him off"

He was given the "correct punishment" of a 2 shot penalty and then followed by the correct punishment of DQ due to signing and incorrect scorecard. At what point exactly has he been left.

A lot of golfers have broken rules accidentally but you don't see the tour looking to ban Woods for his accidental incorrect drops.

Dyson is a decent bloke who has made a mistake , he did something without thinking and realising and it's cost him badly.

He hasn't been let off - he has been punished correctly already.
 
They didn't "let him off"

He was given the "correct punishment" of a 2 shot penalty and then followed by the correct punishment of DQ due to signing and incorrect scorecard. At what point exactly has he been left.

A lot of golfers have broken rules accidentally but you don't see the tour looking to ban Woods for his accidental incorrect drops.

Dyson is a decent bloke who has made a mistake , he did something without thinking and realising and it's cost him badly.

He hasn't been let off - he has been punished correctly already.
Read the quote I said IF they let him off.A 2 stroke penalty obvious isnt enough and I dont think that should be he's only penalty.As for Woods well if you the best player ever you gets away with everything dont you, they are litterally afraid of him, its wrong but its a fact.
 
Can't believe some people are suggesting banning someone for tapping down a piece of grass. Go have a look at other sports and see if this incident is really necessary of making an example of.
 
Read the quote I said IF they let him off.A 2 stroke penalty obvious isnt enough and I dont think that should be he's only penalty.As for Woods well if you the best player ever you gets away with everything dont you, they are litterally afraid of him, its wrong but its a fact.


Why would he be getting "let off" by having the appropriate (per the rules) penalty applied?

Why isn't the 2 stroke penalty, again as per the rules, enough?
 
Can't believe some people are suggesting banning someone for tapping down a piece of grass. Go have a look at other sports and see if this incident is really necessary of making an example of.

Yes; what a good idea.

Professional golfers showing the same disregard for rules as, say, professional footballers.

I can hardly wait!
 
Can't believe some people are suggesting banning someone for tapping down a piece of grass. Go have a look at other sports and see if this incident is really necessary of making an example of.
Its not a case of tapping down a piece of grass its improving your line to the hole which is the issue.What is it nowdays with people and rules??
 
Read the quote I said IF they let him off.A 2 stroke penalty obvious isnt enough and I dont think that should be he's only penalty.As for Woods well if you the best player ever you gets away with everything dont you, they are litterally afraid of him, its wrong but its a fact.

A 2 shot penalty is the official punishment - why should it suddenly become more ? Why isn't it "obviously not enough"

Also he was punished more because the 2 shot penalty meant he was DQ from the tournament and missed the chance to play in the WGC

So again he has been rightly punished already.
 
Its not a case of tapping down a piece of grass its improving your line to the hole which is the issue.What is it nowdays with people and rules??

And he has been punished as per the official rule book for his actions. So tell me how they could possibly "Let him off" when he has already been punished !!
 
Why would he be getting "let off" by having the appropriate (per the rules) penalty applied?

Why isn't the 2 stroke penalty, again as per the rules, enough?
Look apparently Mr Dyson has a bit of history of this sort of thing, I'm sure he's a decent guy who's just having momentary lapses in concentration that is concerning the powers that be at the Euro tour.
 
Look apparently Mr Dyson has a bit of history of this sort of thing, I'm sure he's a decent guy who's just having momentary lapses in concentration that is concerning the powers that be at the Euro tour.


Can you show me the previous episodes when he has done this if "apparently" he has history ? I expect they should be readily available
 
Look apparently Mr Dyson has a bit of history of this sort of thing, I'm sure he's a decent guy who's just having momentary lapses in concentration that is concerning the powers that be at the Euro tour.

I don't know of any "history", what I would say is if his playing partners have signed his card knowing he has done something untoward then bleated about it they're as bad as him! If they don't have the balls to question someone at the ti e why raise it later?
 
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