Scottish v English football

[Doon frae Troon]

One off games don't show differences - no matter how many times you try and tell yourself. The difference between the Scottish league and Prem is vast

Far too busy trying to look to blame others without looking at the standard of your own - improve the quality and competition of your league and then the rest will follow

There are a number of small leagues that continuely manage to qualify for CL year in year out .

yea yea yea......One off matches, they were not really trying, new manager, best players were injured, pre season friendlies don't count etc etc etc.
Do you ever get tired of making excuses.

BTW the Hearts v Liverpool match was a TWO match one off that you were blooming lucky to win , against our 'ordinary' team.

 

[ger147]

It was - so maybe it's worse than I thought and the standard was dropping a number of years ago.

Yes, that's the point I've been trying to make.

Of course we'll be sinking like a brick now but if you look carefully about how the co-efficient system is set up, it is incredibly difficult for smaller nations to even make the start line in the CL.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

yea yea yea......One off matches, they were not really trying, new manager, best players were injured, pre season friendlies don't count etc etc etc.
Do you ever get tired of making excuses.

Ok put it simply - three Scottish clubs in Europe this week - all three lost

Anyone counting a pre season friendly to judge teams really likes clutching at straws

Liverpool played Hearts and beat them and knocked them out

This week should have highlighted how poor your league football is at the moment yet you still hark back to a match 2 years ago and a pre season friendly

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Yes, that's the point I've been trying to make.

Of course we'll be sinking like a brick now but if you look carefully about how the co-efficient system is set up, it is incredibly difficult for smaller nations to even make the start line in the CL.

There are some clubs in the CL a great deal smaller than Celtic - also leagues around the same size as Scotland's - not so long ago Scotland were 13th and ahead of countries like Denmark and Belguim - Belguim don't have money dripping out of them but have managed to nuture some wonderful players and get stronger and gain CL places etc

No idea how you will do it but really do need to find a way to get better teams playing

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Ok put it simply - three Scottish clubs in Europe this week - all three lost

Anyone counting a pre season friendly to judge teams really likes clutching at straws

Liverpool played Hearts and beat them and knocked them out

This week should have highlighted how poor your league football is at the moment yet you still hark back to a match 2 years ago and a pre season friendly

You really don't get it do you.........they are playing against decent quality teams.
How do you think Hull would shape up against the team Celtic played.

I shall repeat Liverpool were very lucky to defeat an average Hearts side, they won but only with a last minute winner.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

There are some clubs in the CL a great deal smaller than Celtic - also leagues around the same size as Scotland's - not so long ago Scotland were 13th and ahead of countries like Denmark and Belguim - Belguim don't have money dripping out of them but have managed to nuture some wonderful players and get stronger and gain CL places etc

No idea how you will do it but really do need to find a way to get better teams playing

Phil You are getting confused between Countries and Leagues.

The EPL is the third best league in the world but England are definitely not the third ranked team in the world

 

[chris661]

There are some clubs in the CL a great deal smaller than Celtic - also leagues around the same size as Scotland's - not so long ago Scotland were 13th and ahead of countries like Denmark and Belguim - Belguim don't have money dripping out of them but have managed to nuture some wonderful players and get stronger and gain CL places etc

No idea how you will do it but really do need to find a way to get better teams playing

And which of them go straight into the group stages?

Why do you continually have to hammer home a point when you actually know very little about the subject. Maybe if you just stopped going on and on and on and on.....

 

[Deleted member 15344]

You really don't get it do you.........they are playing against decent quality teams.
How do you think Hull would shape up against the team Celtic played.

I shall repeat Liverpool were very lucky to defeat an average Hearts side, they won but only with a last minute winner.

Hull aren't champions of their league ! And even in their first campaign in Europe they still didnt lose and I reckon they wouldn't have list 4-1

Liverpool beat hearts - simple as that - how it doesn't matter. Man UTD once only just beat a non league team - does that mean the standard between the two team is close.

How close do you think the standard between the SPL and EPL is ?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

And which of them go straight into the group stages?

Why do you continually have to hammer home a point when you actually know very little about the subject. Maybe if you just stopped going on and on and on and on.....

Anderlecht go straight into the group stage - took the Scottish place in the group stage.

Are Anderlecht a bigger club with money dripping from their league ?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Phil You are getting confused between Countries and Leagues.

The EPL is the third best league in the world but England are definitely not the third ranked team in the world

I'm not talking about national teams - the UEFA co effeicents for European competitions has nothing to do with the national team.

I'm talking about the leagues and the difference in quality between the leagues ( as stated in the OP )

 

[Doon frae Troon]

And which of them go straight into the group stages?

Why do you continually have to hammer home a point when you actually know very little about the subject. Maybe if you just stopped going on and on and on and on.....

and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on






and on

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Spurs hammered Celtic 6-1.

But, in Liverhampton land
It was a friendly, the Celtic team were avoiding injuries ahead of the CL match, they had a player sent off, it was raining, They had the wrong sort of ball, someone in the crowd shouted at them and the team bus was held up by the traffic going to the Games.

So the score is unimportant.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

What Games in Helsinki?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Spurs hammered Celtic 6-1.

But, in Liverhampton land
It was a friendly, the Celtic team were avoiding injuries ahead of the CL match, they had a player sent off, it was raining, They had the wrong sort of ball, someone in the crowd shouted at them and the team bus was held up by the traffic going to the Games.

So the score is unimportant.

You are finally catching on about the importance of pre season and friendly games

 

[FairwayDodger]

In the true spirit of the commonwealth games, there are no losers!

Congratulations to st Johnstone, Aberdeen and Celtic for bravely winning the silver medal in their European ties this week....

 

[Doon frae Troon]

What Games in Helsinki?

Guilty as charged

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Guilty as charged

And I didn't even mention Birmingham City 3, Inverness Caledonian Thistle 1.

Well I couldn't really given my previous remarks about friendlies. Apparently the crowd(?) was swollen by 110 away supporters. Is there really so little to do in Inverness at the week-end?

 

[Foxholer]

And which of them go straight into the group stages?

Why do you continually have to hammer home a point when you actually know very little about the subject. Maybe if you just stopped going on and on and on and on.....

Seems to me he knows a lot more about it than most Scots!

And the OP was all about his realisation of the difference too!

Apart from Celtic, I don't believe any SPL team would be competitive - even probably not in The Championship! That doesn't mean it isn't 'exciting' though. As I've stated a couple of times, the promotion battle in The Scottish Championship will be very interesting!

In the true spirit of the commonwealth games, there are no losers!

Congratulations to st Johnstone, Aberdeen and Celtic for bravely winning the silver medal in their European ties this week....

:rofl: :rofl: :clap:

 

[Doon frae Troon]

It will be interesting to compare SPL and SCL attendance figures at the end of the season.
As Foxy says there will be more interest in the Championship.

 

[chris661]

Seems to me he knows a lot more about it than most Scots!

And the OP was all about his realisation of the difference too!

Apart from Celtic, I don't believe any SPL team would be competitive - even probably not in The Championship! That doesn't mean it isn't 'exciting' though. As I've stated a couple of times, the promotion battle in The Scottish Championship will be very interesting!

Really? Go on to any message board for any team and Scotland and most of the fans seem to have a realisation that the level of football is crap.

He keeps harping on about rangers making it to the top flight for competition to Celtic which seemingly will then create some sort of utopian state where sky will suddenly start pouring money into a product that is frankly garbage. It isn't going to happen. The only way to create competition is to have better players and to do that you need money to pay them. Why come to Scotland for 15k a week when they could earn twice that in the championship or even that a day in the premier league. And that is achieved with the ludicrous sky money.