Scottish v English football

[Birchy]

They certainly need to sort out the amount of fouling that goes on at corners - holding, pulling , shirt grabbing etc - every corner is the same

I agree, loads do it now. As soon as you grab another players shirt it should be an instant penalty imo. There cant be any reason within the laws of the game that allows that at all.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I agree, loads do it now. As soon as you grab another players shirt it should be an instant penalty imo. There cant be any reason within the laws of the game that allows that at all.

As long as it goes both ways because the attackers also have a fair grab at times also :thup:

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

They certainly need to sort out the amount of fouling that goes on at corners - holding, pulling , shirt grabbing etc - every corner is the same

And you had to ask about the other antics that Skrtel is a master of?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

And you had to ask about the other antics that Skrtel is a master of?

Yes because I forgot that Skrtel is the only player doing it !

Let's ignore watching Vidic or Terry or in fact any physical CB doing it and concentrate on just the one player. Just like Suarez is the other diver and cheat , Skrtel is the only player to handball and grapple with a player in the box.

 

[MegaSteve]

Well done to the 'ammer [think it was Jarvis] who determinedly stayed vertical, yesterday, when a little swanny could well have seen him 'winning' a pen... Wonder if BIG Sam thanked him for doing so...

And before Doon points it out there wasn't a single English player in the Arsenal starting line-up....

 

[Snelly]

The difference between Scottish and English football is huge in many respects. Not least in the damage that the EPL does to our culture and attitude to each other. It is a moral vacuum. Played by morons, managed by the devious, over-indulged by the media and supported by the blinkered. It has a negative, pervasive influence on sport and society and I think it is, for the most part, horrible.

 

[Foxholer]

The difference between Scottish and English football is huge in many respects. Not least in the damage that the EPL does to our culture and attitude to each other. It is a moral vacuum. Played by morons, managed by the devious, over-indulged by the media and supported by the blinkered. It has a negative, pervasive influence on sport and society and I think it is, for the most part, horrible.

And how is that different in Scotland?

A huge number of pubs in Edinburgh have signs saying 'no Football Shirts'!

 

[Snelly]

And how is that different in Scotland?

A huge number of pubs in Edinburgh have signs saying 'no Football Shirts'!

With the exception of the Old Firm, Scottish football seems slightly more acceptable and Corinthian in spirit.

 

[Foxholer]

With the exception of the Old Firm, Scottish football seems slightly more acceptable and Corinthian in spirit.

Unconvinced! They are just not very good. But the fans are just as 'fanatical' as equivalent fans in England imo.

Old Firm is definitely unique. As is the EPL. And in both cases, more for the bad reasons then for the good ones!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

The difference between Scottish and English football is huge in many respects. Not least in the damage that the EPL does to our culture and attitude to each other. It is a moral vacuum. Played by morons, managed by the devious, over-indulged by the media and supported by the blinkered. It has a negative, pervasive influence on sport and society and I think it is, for the most part, horrible.

Isnt that the same all around the globe with football as opposed to just England or the EPL ?

And morals in sport ? Very rare.

But sport/football can also unite a country and fans can be united in a common aim -

The way that all the clubs acted over the weekend shows there is respect and humility in the game still

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Finally good news for Hearts fans.

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/ann-budge-hearts-deal-is-the-start-of-a-new-era-1-3378009

 

[Pin-seeker]

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...ts-Matt-Jarvis-for-NOT-DIVING-against-Arsenal
It's come to something when a player gets criticised for staying on his feet. Sadly Neville as got a point.

 

[Adi2Dassler]

Finally good news for Hearts fans.

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/ann-budge-hearts-deal-is-the-start-of-a-new-era-1-3378009

On balance, and removing my extreme militance, this is good news, for Scottish football,Hertz, and dare I say it, Hibs.Relegation and a couple of seasons down, cloth cut accordingly and living within means.A level playing field.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...ts-Matt-Jarvis-for-NOT-DIVING-against-Arsenal
It's come to something when a player gets criticised for staying on his feet. Sadly Neville as got a point.

it was a penalty and should have been given - fair play to Jarvis for staying on his feet.

But its sad if it has come to a point when a ref will only give a pen if the players go down

 

[Pin-seeker]

it was a penalty and should have been given - fair play to Jarvis for staying on his feet.

But its sad if it has come to a point when a ref will only give a pen if the players go down

It doesn't exactly give a player any incentive to stay on his feet does it.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

It doesn't exactly give a player any incentive to stay on his feet does it.

I remember at the beginning of the 06/07 season when Gerrard was through on goal and a guy came flying in and Gerrard had to jump over him and stumbled and missed the chance - the ref gave the penalty which imo was right but the reaction was saying the ref was wrong because Gerrard wasnt touched - only because he jumped !

Refs are really having too much say in the game

 

[Pin-seeker]

I remember at the beginning of the 06/07 season when Gerrard was through on goal and a guy came flying in and Gerrard had to jump over him and stumbled and missed the chance - the ref gave the penalty which imo was right but the reaction was saying the ref was wrong because Gerrard wasnt touched - only because he jumped !

Refs are really having too much say in the game

This just shows that it's not so simple. If Gerrard doesn't jump,gets wiped out & potentially injured then it's definitely a pen. He chose to jump,which meant he had to give up a goal scoring opportunity & probably 5 times out of 10 wouldn't get the penalty.

 

[Slime]

I remember at the beginning of the 06/07 season when Gerrard was through on goal and a guy came flying in and Gerrard had to jump over him and stumbled and missed the chance - the ref gave the penalty which imo was right but the reaction was saying the ref was wrong because Gerrard wasnt touched - only because he jumped !

Refs are really having too much say in the game

Liverpool v City is a good example.
The ref had so much say ......................... just by doing nothing!
Refs need help, and they need it now.


Slime.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Liverpool v City is a good example.
The ref had so much say ......................... just by doing nothing!
Refs need help, and they need it now.


Slime.

Yeah the modern game is too fast for refs to make so many big decisions.
But when you see refs not using the help they already have,(like in the Liverpool v West Ham game) when the ref clearly ignored the linesman it makes you wonder.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Liverpool v City is a good example.
The ref had so much say ......................... just by doing nothing!
Refs need help, and they need it now.


Slime.

refs just need to be held accountable - currently they arent and are protected - football would be ruined by adding more technology into it

Its not a game that allows "natural breaks" for vid replays to be used.

The ref has had a say in all the big games so far this season